MORryde Independent Suspension System

[ExtremeRVing]

We are considering upgrading our 2021 Cougar 30RKDWE Half Ton Travel Trailer to the MORryde Independent Suspension System (with disc brakes).

I know that more 5th wheels do the upgrade than travel trailers, but wanted to see if anyone has any experience with the system, and if so, what you may think of it.

[Javi]

Great system and I'd love it on my Avalanche,
Don't know that I'd choose a light weight mid-level trailer for it.

[77cruiser]

Make sure they get the alignment before you leave. I've had to changed 2 rubber springs so far, 2 years & 10 K miles. Rides way better & the brakes are great.

[ExtremeRVing]

Great system and I'd love it on my Avalanche,
Don't know that I'd choose a light weight mid-level trailer for it.

What would you consider a light weight mid-level trailer?

do you have it on your avalanche?

[ExtremeRVing]

Make sure they get the alignment before you leave. I've had to changed 2 rubber springs so far, 2 years & 10 K miles. Rides way better & the brakes are great.

Is that normal wear for the rubber springs?

Did you have to take it back to them for changing the springs?

[77cruiser]

Is that normal wear for the rubber springs?

Did you have to take it back to them for changing the springs?


I wouldn't think so. No I'm 800 miles away I didn't want to go there just to change them. They are kind of a pain but not terrible to change.

They must be trying to make them better because they wanted the old ones back.

[gearhead]

We are considering upgrading our 2021 Cougar 30RKDWE Half Ton Travel Trailer to the MORryde Independent Suspension System (with disc brakes).

I know that more 5th wheels do the upgrade than travel trailers, but wanted to see if anyone has any experience with the system, and if so, what you may think of it.
Are you talking about MORryde center links or a real independent suspension with torsion bars without leaf springs?

[ExtremeRVing]

Are you talking about MORryde center links or a real independent suspension with torsion bars without leaf springs?
Hi gearhead

it would be the real. independent suspension with torsion bars without leaf springs

[JRTJH]

According to some sources, the independent torsion suspension with disc brakes is around $7500 installed on a trailer as an aftermarket modification.

I think, something you've completely overlooked is Keystone's response to such a mod. On a 2021 Cougar, you can bet your butt that your 1 year "inclusive warranty" and your "3 year structural warranty" will be voided.

Even though you might get a "perceived or real improvement in ride quality" it's illegal (almost everywhere) to ride in a moving travel trailer, so voiding the warranty to help the dishes be more comfortable ??? At a cost of $7500 plus assuming all responsibility for any structural issues that might occur for the next 3 years? Knowing Keystone's attitude on warranty assistance, this would be their "ticket to toss you out with the bath water".....

[ExtremeRVing]

According to some sources, the independent torsion suspension with disc brakes is around $7500 installed on a trailer as an aftermarket modification.

I think, something you've completely overlooked is Keystone's response to such a mod. On a 2021 Cougar, you can bet your butt that your 1 year "inclusive warranty" and your "3 year structural warranty" will be voided.

Even though you might get a "perceived or real improvement in ride quality" it's illegal (almost everywhere) to ride in a moving travel trailer, so voiding the warranty to help the dishes be more comfortable ??? At a cost of $7500 plus assuming all responsibility for any structural issues that might occur for the next 3 years? Knowing Keystone's attitude on warranty assistance, this would be their "ticket to toss you out with the bath water".....
HI JRTJH

lol - no its not to make the dishes more comfortable, but to reduce transferred vibration from the road to the rest of the RV, as well as upgrade the brakes to disc brakes, etc. Less vibration transferred equals longer lasting RV. Better brakes means less braking issues in the mountains.

But I'm sure my dishes will be happier also should I get it done.


Thanks for your thoughts

[77cruiser]

HI JRTJH

lol - no its not to make the dishes more comfortable, but to reduce transferred vibration from the road to the rest of the RV, as well as upgrade the brakes to disc brakes, etc. Less vibration transferred equals longer lasting RV. Better brakes means less braking issues in the mountains.

But I'm sure my dishes will be happier also should I get it done.


Thanks for your thoughts
That's why I did it. These things fall apart too easy as it is.

[travelin texans]

If you decide to only chose one of those options pick the disc brakes, there's a night/day noticeable difference with them.
Had several friends that did both, I only did the disc, that said they'd never own another RV without both upgrades.

[Javi]

What would you consider a light weight mid-level trailer?

do you have it on your avalanche?

A Cougar 1/2 ton trailer is by definition a light weight, mid-level trailer.

Compare weight and carrying capacity of your Cougar to say an Arcadia of the same length and you'll understand. The difference in weight is in the construction materials, frame and practices.

Don't misunderstand me, I've owned a Cougar 5th wheel and it served its purpose very well but it was not a Montana, Alpine or even an Avalanche even though all three of the upper level 5th wheels are considered FULL TIME units. The Cougar Premium (which I had) and especially the lighter Cougar 1/2 tons are not.

If we were younger, in better health and more able to travel; I would certainly entertain installing the Morryde Independent Suspension and disc brakes on our 313RS.... Although I understand that the $7500 mentioned above might be more than a little light and I've heard the line is already out to the fall of 2022 and growing.

As it is, we're going to have Performance Braking install disc brakes with upgraded bearings and 9/16" studs on it at a cost of just under $4K

[travelin texans]

A Cougar 1/2 ton trailer is by definition a light weight, mid-level trailer.

Compare weight and carrying capacity of your Cougar to say an Arcadia of the same length and you'll understand. The difference in weight is in the construction materials, frame and practices.

Don't misunderstand me, I've owned a Cougar 5th wheel and it served its purpose very well but it was not a Montana, Alpine or even an Avalanche even though all three of the upper level 5th wheels are considered FULL TIME units. The Cougar Premium (which I had) and especially the lighter Cougar 1/2 tons are not.

If we were younger, in better health and more able to travel; I would certainly entertain installing the Morryde Independent Suspension and disc brakes on our 313RS.... Although I understand that the $7500 mentioned above might be more than a little light and I've heard the line is already out to the fall of 2022 and growing.

As it is, we're going to have Performance Braking install disc brakes with upgraded bearings and 9/16" studs on it at a cost of just under $4K

Good company & great installers.

[sourdough]

What would you consider a light weight mid-level trailer?

do you have it on your avalanche?


This was directed to Javi but to just confirm; your Cougar 1/2 ton is exactly what you ask about = lighter weight, mid level trailer. Then the questions become only those that you can answer. How much do you want to invest in a mid level trailer and how long do you intend to keep it? You will not get your money back. As in most things you do to an RV the mods are for YOU and no one else is going to see the benefit, or pay for it generally.

IMO, and it's just that, to put that kind of money for an IS into that size/level of RV would have to be just for personal "feel good" and I would be very hesitant to even think about it unless it was my last shot at an RV. JMO/YMMV.

[notanlines]

We’re starting our fifth year with an RV with both and are quite satisfied, but we are towing 20K. I would be more inclined to just go with the disk brakes. That is the only upgrade you will actually notice a big difference.

[ExtremeRVing]

We just had it confirmed with MORryde that the Independent suspension needs a trailer weighing 10K or more, so our trailer does not qualify.

As to the disc brakes - they are now looking into that as well.



Thank you everyone for your input on the subject

[sourdough]

We just had it confirmed with MORryde that the Independent suspension needs a trailer weighing 10K or more, so our trailer does not qualify.

As to the disc brakes - they are now looking into that as well.



Thank you everyone for your input on the subject


Have you tried Performance Trailer Braking? MorRyde makes suspensions and installs 3rd party disc brakes - I believe the same ones PTB installs. Best I recall you have to take your trailer to them to get the work done. The company I referenced does the same things, they are certified by the manufacturers and you get a full factory warranty BUT they come to you and perform the install right at your place. That's worth a lot to me. Might check them out if you haven't - probably save you a lot of time and maybe some money.

[77cruiser]

Might be worth looking into this setup.


https://store.lci1.com/center-point-air-ride-suspension-system-center-point.html#additional