Will it work?

[Gearhead]

My son is a cheapskate. He got it from my Dad, certainly not me. He and a coworker have bought a frame of a fifth wheel and plan on putting a shipping container on it. It’s just for the hunting lease, no travelling. It sounds like a good idea to me but I would have to do a little research before I spent money on it. From what little he has told me there is no plan to load it down. Maybe some cots for sleeping and gun storage. Most cooking outside but who knows.
I have no idea what the weight of an empty box is, either a 40ft or any other.
Would a Lippert frame support this?
Your thoughts?

 

[Peto]

Hold my beer and watch this.

 

[flybouy]

Here's a link on container weights and dimensions ..... Container Dimensions as for making a camper out of one I'd think that a few web searches would yield lots of results. Folks have been using/converting them for more uses than you can imagine.

 

[snoobler]

About 8600 lb.

Note that a shipping container has an R value of about 0.002 (this is a real number), and is essentially thermally transparent. If it's cold outside, it's going to be the same temperature inside the container.

 

[flybouy]

If your talking about 3 people going in on this financially my advice is don't. I've seen partnerships like this between family, friends, and co-workers and they typically end with a bunch of hard feelings and regret.

While the "barebones" intention may last a little while I'd bet it would turn into "I'm cold, let's insulate this", and "it sure would be nice to have a bathroom in here", or "wow it smells bad in here we need some ventilation, and before you realize it your in the middle of a perpetual project that's consuming way too much of your time and money.

Good luck with your possible new venture.

 

[Notanlines]

I believe the partnership would be no problem until the lease is up and removal is necessary. BTW, the frame only has to support it until it arrives at the final resting place. But I want no part of this idea!

 

[Gearhead]

I believe the partnership would be no problem until the lease is up and removal is necessary. BTW, the frame only has to support it until it arrives at the final resting place. But I want no part of this idea!

what I’m thinking.

 

[Gearhead]

If your talking about 3 people going in on this financially my advice is don't. I've seen partnerships like this between family, friends, and co-workers and they typically end with a bunch of hard feelings and regret.

While the "barebones" intention may last a little while I'd bet it would turn into "I'm cold, let's insulate this", and "it sure would be nice to have a bathroom in here", or "wow it smells bad in here we need some ventilation, and before you realize it your in the middle of a perpetual project that's consuming way too much of your time and money.

Good luck with your possible new venture.

I’m trying to be a hands off Dad. He is 37 yrs old. He can make his own mistakes.
In theory I guess it could work.

 

[chuckster57]

I see many nights of Kumbia while injesting flavored antifreeze.

 

[jasin1]

My Grandfather had two homes…he purchased a 20’ foot? shipping container for each property..he cut a door on one side and they were his little sheds/workshops. He put a little potbelly stove in the one at his primary residence. had a workbench on one end with a little window over it. another window on the side with the door. He would open the big doors when it was nice out and the one at his vacation property he stored his riding mower. It may not have much insulation but it also doesn’t take much heat to get it comfortable inside ..i always remember it being cozy in the dead of winter

people sleep in tents with little stoves in the backcountry so its got to be better then that..just make sure they don’t try and make it too tight…need some fresh air to prevent CO poisoning ( i’m sure you know that )..i had a couple for my company and those tended to sweat..they were metal..my grandfathers were fiberglass don’t know if you can find them anymore… that was a long time ago and they are probably all gone now..but people on youtube are building container homes all over the country now

 

[Gearhead]

About 8600 lb.

Note that a shipping container has an R value of about 0.002 (this is a real number), and is essentially thermally transparent. If it's cold outside, it's going to be the same temperature inside the container.

SE Texas…usually mild winters, usually.

 

[sourdough]

I’m trying to be a hands off Dad. He is 37 yrs old. He can make his own mistakes.
In theory I guess it could work.

You need to really heed your advice above. My son is 57. Lots of mistakes - all on him....despite my advice. Advise as a good or bad decision, if he chooses to go forward advise as you see fit, BUT, stay out of the implementation, decisions etc. - he's 37.

 

[Notanlines]

Remember the definition of ‘askhole.’ It involves people (usually offspring) who ask for your advice and then do what they want. Yep, my son will be 45 next birthday…..askhole!

 

[chuckster57]

Never heard of that one.

 

[JRTJH]

We stayed in a converted supermarket "cold storage box" (the ones they have out behind the store to keep produce or frozen foods) for several trips to North Carolina over the last 3 years. It is essentially a "40' storage container, converted to an apartment". It was comfortable, and really, it was difficult to imagine that it was, in a previous life, a steel box behind a food store. Here's the link to a "what you can do with a shipping container if you set your mind to it"... Sure, it's more expensive than a tent, but also much more comfortable.

Tiny home in Mount Airy · ★4.96 · 1 bedroom · 1 bed · 1 bath

Little House on Fancy Gap, Unique tiny home.

www.airbnb.com

And, since his "project" is headed to a hunting spot, the last photo shows that shipping containers don't scare away deer.

 

[snoobler]

Remember the definition of ‘askhole.’ It involves people (usually offspring) who ask for your advice and then do what they want. Yep, my son will be 45 next birthday…..askhole!

I've used that term for a couple decades.

I am surrounded by askholes of all ages. It doesn't matter how reasoned or thorough my response is, they just disregard it. That's their right.

I've started actively rejecting them. "You repeatedly ask for my advice, disregard it, and then do whatever you want. Let's just skip to the end. Have a nice day!"

 

[Gearhead]

That is a great strategy.
Im occasionally right enough that I still am shown a little respect. Mostly about rotating equipment issues at his work. I had a big winner last year. Their process gas compressor, probably about 100,000 horsepower, was shaking bad. I told him they started it up with liquid in it and bent the blades, killed the coupling, and probably bent the shaft. He told that story at work and it was dead on. Dad that was a good guess. Weren’t no guess, we did the same thing. Almost totaled a 1 million dollar+ rotor.
Y’all deserve it for buying that Mitsubishi crap.
I win one occasionally.

 

[Gearhead]

We stayed in a converted supermarket "cold storage box" (the ones they have out behind the store to keep produce or frozen foods) for several trips to North Carolina over the last 3 years. It is essentially a "40' storage container, converted to an apartment". It was comfortable, and really, it was difficult to imagine that it was, in a previous life, a steel box behind a food store. Here's the link to a "what you can do with a shipping container if you set your mind to it"... Sure, it's more expensive than a tent, but also much more comfortable.

Tiny home in Mount Airy · ★4.96 · 1 bedroom · 1 bed · 1 bath

Little House on Fancy Gap, Unique tiny home.

www.airbnb.com

And, since his "project" is headed to a hunting spot, the last photo shows that shipping containers don't scare away deer.

 

[Gearhead]

Oh yeah. I could live in a cluster of containers.
We had at work what was called a BRM…Blast Resistant Module. Basically a heavy duty container with heavy duty doors and no windows. That is probably where the son got this idea because his “office” is a BRM.