Sailun or Carlisle or Synergy tires

[harleywalt impact]

I’ve worn my Goodyears down and it has been suggested Synergy because lots of number of dump trailers etc has success. ( because they sell a lot) I don’t think that works for our 36’ Keystone Impact 235/85/16 G or M rating ( if they have M). But Amazon has S637/Sailun but can’t find a speed rating above 75. (L) 4400? Load, The other posts I see is “Carlisle”16 ply? ( I’ve had them on my truck) 16 ply (synergy16) I priced Goodyear @$2,700. & $3275.75 For 4. Another tire dealer suggested TransEagle?. Does anyone out there have more input? I read a comment that Synergy or TransEagle works well as a rough use tire. The difference is that RV tires roll for a day or several, then sits for weeks or longer so they are not a good pick. So any feedback is appreciated.

 

[workinonit]

Don't forget Hercules H901s.

 

[Notanlines]

Sailuns usually come out on top in most threads. Be sure to avoid any brand with ‘king’ in the name.

 

[jsb5717]

There are definitely fewer brands in the YES column vs the NO column. Sailun, Carlisle, Cooper, Goodyear Endurance will typically get the thumbs up. I would feel confident with any of these. I just bought my second set of Sailuns...they served me well the first time.

Yes, I would avoid any of the Kings, Eagles, Rainiers, etc

 

[JRTJH]

Don't forget that Carlisle changed names to CARLSTAR a couple months ago. Same tire, same manufacturing plant, same company backing warranty, just consolidated all the different "tire names" all under the parent company which is Carlstar. Older tires will still be sold until stock is depleted, so pay attention to what you get. It's possible, I suppose, to order 4 tires and get 3 Carlisle and 1 Carlstar. I'd opt to only accept all of the same name and those with Carlstar will always have a later manufacturing date.

 

[Peto]

I'm impressed. I've never been able to wear out a trailer tire before they aged out...... Nice job.

 

[harleywalt impact]

This keeps getting clearer, although today I went to my RV repair shop to discuss those tires. Since he recommended Synergy ST500 (?) 235/86/16 (H) ?, 16 ply M speed rating. Reviews show high positive for trailers, dump trailers, horse trailers w living space. The tire shop said he sells lots of these Synergy. * they will wear them out before they fail because of distance, rest, and Rv type use?
While discussing this with the tire dealer by phone, in the shop was a 44foot Cyclone with Synergy tires (0124) born on date. They are beefy, deep tread, looks very good. And about the same price total. $900.
Earlier I went to NTB priced Sailun at $173. + $35. Mounting+ $14.00 tire recycling. Problem is they do not have a way to get a large RV in the parking lot. ( I’m not removing them myself) They stated “Hercules” is a lower grade tire so the price is $130. Not as high a quality. Amazon priced them at $194.00 ea. ( hence free shipping) now leaning towards Synergy. But, big BUT still want replies.

 

[harleywalt impact]

When I said “Amazon priced them” those were Sailun @$194.00 free shipping

 

[ChuckS]

Hercules H901 series RV tire is as good as ANY other 14 ply G rated ST tire on the market.. I know of at least 50 folks using them now for 2 years or more on heavy fifth wheels with zero complaints..

The place that is telling the customer the H901 tire is. “ lower grade “ tire is smoking some good stuff

H-901 ST | Tires by Name

The H-901 ST is a commercial trailer tire designed for agricultural and industrial towing. Learn more today and find them at a dealer near you!

www.herculestire.com

 

[harleywalt impact]

Hercules H901 series RV tire is as good as ANY other 14 ply G rated ST tire on the market.. I know of at least 50 folks using them now for 2 years or more on heavy fifth wheels with zero complaints..

The place that is telling the customer the H901 tire is. “ lower grade “ tire is smoking some good stuff

H-901 ST | Tires by Name

The H-901 ST is a commercial trailer tire designed for agricultural and industrial towing. Learn more today and find them at a dealer near you!

www.herculestire.com

Viper02: I’m not sure why they ( she) said that. It could be because their price was $148(?) and the response was based upon pricing (No life experience) a 14 ply G is the Impact mfg. sticker. My thought the higher speed rating would be a better choice. (16 ply M) sometimes I crawl up to the 75MPH speed limit, but watch it and maintain 65-68MPH.

 

[jsb5717]

The Sailuns at 75MPH have never been a problem for us. I have no desire to pull the 5er that fast. Our cruising speed is 65ish...except in CA due to their dangerous speed restrictions.

 

[harleywalt impact]

The Sailuns at 75MPH have never been a problem for us. I have no desire to pull the 5er that fast. Our cruising speed is 65ish...except in CA due to their dangerous speed restrictions.

I’m sure you are right about hauling at speeds> I’ve experienced 18 wheelers blow by me. And I’ve witnessed horrific crashes involving 18Whlr. I might back off the 16 ply for that reason (speed rating)

 

[sourdough]

An observation or two;

Synergy tires are made by Sulong China Tire Resources. They are 100% Chinese made by everything I find. The don't have U.S. manufacturer oversight nor engineering specs...hence, a China Bomb from what I can find.

Your dealer endorses them because they have them I suspect. Did you ask if they could throw on a set of Sailuns or Endurance? I suspect I know the answer. Went through the same thing in FL when I had a Sailun get a zing at the edge of the sidewall. The best tire in the world for my RV? TransEagle. Why? That's what they sold. Sailuns? Cheap China bombs (like they don't have an idea what the TransEagles are). It's what they stock, what they carry and a sales pitch sounds like to me. There is a reason there are just a few tires at the top of the recommended list from experienced RV owners....and Synergy isn't there. Price is important on some things vs quality (not many IMO) but tires and the safety of family and others aren't negotiable.

 

[Notanlines]

Rather than parrot what Danny said I’ll just choose to agree. Yep, China bombs.

 

[workinonit]

These tire shops want to sell you what they want you to buy. Do your research. If you buy based on what they say no telling what you will be running or how much you will have invested. I run the hercules. Can't speak for any other tire, never run any other. But the Hercules is a stout tire that will hold up.

 

[JBM3M]

Carlisle, Cooper, Michelin. Regardless make sure of proper load range.

 

[harleywalt impact]

An observation or two;

Synergy tires are made by Sulong China Tire Resources. They are 100% Chinese made by everything I find. The don't have U.S. manufacturer oversight nor engineering specs...hence, a China Bomb from what I can find.

Your dealer endorses them because they have them I suspect. Did you ask if they could throw on a set of Sailuns or Endurance? I suspect I know the answer. Went through the same thing in FL when I had a Sailun get a zing at the edge of the sidewall. The best tire in the world for my RV? TransEagle. Why? That's what they sold. Sailuns? Cheap China bombs (like they don't have an idea what the TransEagles are). It's what they stock, what they carry and a sales pitch sounds like to me. There is a reason there are just a few tires at the top of the recommended list from experienced RV owners....and Synergy isn't there. Price is important on some things vs quality (not many IMO) but tires and the safety of family and others aren't negotiable.

SO: absolutely! Synergy recommended, because he stocks them. He did not know of Sailun, but offered to find them. (of course I can do the same) THAT indicates to me, he did not do many RVs if any. I take it you have Sailun?
I was surprised that the Cyclone in the shop had Synergy on it. Peace of mind would be Sailun or Goodyear endurance(I’m thinking) I will be hunting for best prices today. The shop uses this dealer to install tires while having service/repairs. So the shop owner may have an interest. * an added note some tire distributors website has a quiz. Where are you going to drive, Northern states, southern states, East West, mountains bla bla bla. Then the recommendations for tires. Since RVers are all over I’ve never seen a quiz asking or promoting RVs. There should be though.

 

[NH_Bulldog]

I have always run the Goodyear Endurance. First added them as a replacement tire on my last camper when the Trailer Kings finally aged out (even with 28k on them, there was still good tread). I know, VERY rare and VERY daring to keep a China bomb on there that long! My new Cougar came with Goodyear Endurance and they seem to be faring well after a year and 8k miles. My brother has Sailuns on his Fuzion toy hauler and they have done very well.

Considering the investment in any vehicle (truck or RV) these days, the last thing I would cheap-out on is the tires. I suggest Sailun for your application as the best mix of price, reliability, and longevity.

 

[sourdough]

"....SO: I take it you have Sailun?...."

Yes, I do have Sailuns. I had them remove the OE Raniers before I picked up the RV new and I've been very happy with them.

 

[wiredgeorge]

Just an FYI, as John mentioned, the Carlisle brand name is no longer on tires made by that company. Calstar is on the sidewall. I just bought four new Calstar Radial Trail tires for my camper. I have 15 inch rims so my input on tires for a 16" wheel are not very important but I wanted to mention that if you do see Carlisle tries sold, date code may indicate they have been on the shelf for some time. My tires have a date code of 5124 so they are pretty fresh These tires are again LRE.