New battery needs a new battery box

GoingPlaces

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I think I have settled on a new Lithium battery. The Eco Worthy 12.8v, 280 Ah. This battery is much larger (size wise) than my two 6v Trojans and needs a bigger box. This battery measures 17.8" L x 9.37" W and 8.7" H. The Camco Double Battey box is too small by a longshot. I've found two made by Quick Cable that might work, part numbers 120177 and 120178. Yes, I would like to keep it where the current batteries are located, on the trailer tongue. Basically, because the under the trailer storage in minimal and spoken for. It will still take some doing to get it to fit on the existing battery rails that are present, I'm formulating a solution now. But that somewhat depends on the box I find. The Quick Cable boxes are plastic, but I'd also consider another material if one exists for a decent price. I'd hate to spend more on the box than the battery costs.

Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might look?
 
I finally got around to updating my two 6-volt batteries to one 12-volt lithium battery. This would have been their fifth season and last year I noted that they were losing some capacity. I chose the Eco Worthy 12.8 V 280 Ah with Bluetooth model. No real experience with that battery yet since I just finished the installation yesterday and won’t really be using it for a couple of weeks.

I will say that it seems a bit nerd-like and overly techy, but I like the Bluetooth feature of the battery. One of the things I learned is that I have a 1.1 Amp discharge while the trailer is sitting doing “nothing”. The Eco Worthy App is very basic and fairly pathetic, so I am using the Over Kill App since it is compatible with the BMS, it has a bunch more info about the battery. That could be a discussion for another day.

The battery is much larger than the previous two in size and weighs 62 pounds, about the same as only one of the Trojan-T-105’s, so I reduced my tongue weight by 60+ pounds.

I obviously needed a new battery box. There were only two companies that I found (there may be others) that had boxes that would fit: NOCO and Quick Cable. I bought the NOCO HM 408 (thanks Chuckster57). The box exterior is about 24 L x 13 W x 14 H and would not fit in between the existing battery rails.

One drawback of the that box is the battery rocks back and forth, front to back so I had to fix that.

I built up the existing rails with 1.5 x 2 aluminum angle stock to make a platform for the new box. Drilled and bolted through both. I then bolted the plastic box to the new platform. There was not much room to spare in either direction.

I got lucky as I can just barely move the battery in and out of the box after it was bolted down. At 62 pounds that was awkward and took two people.

I was also lucky, in that I could use the existing wires. I just had to move the ground from the left side of the tongue to the right side. That kept me from having to buy new 2/0 cables, which are a bit spendy. I’m not 100% happy with the way the wires fit in the box, and I may upgrade them soon. I think I’ll add a 250 Amp circuit breaker instead of the 250 A fuse.

This project took about two ½ days with help from a friend but, if I had to, I could have done it myself (other than lifting the battery into place).

As far as cost, the Battery was about $425, and the box was $125. I have a buddy who is a machinist, and I got the aluminum for free (gotta’ love that price). Misc nuts, bolts, washers etc. pretty much all came out of that coffee can of stuff in the garage. I lined the bottom of the box with some rubber work mat I had, again no cost there. I think the circuit breaker will be about $30 and I’ll need about 12 inches of 2/0 battery cable, probably $15.

Here are a few pics, I wish I would have taken more...
 

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Looks like a good job, well done!

There will always be some parasitic draw on the battery unless you incorporate a true disconnect at the battery. Things like the control circuits for the fridge, the water heater, the radio, and the LP gas leak detector will all create a load of some sort that absent a solar panel or shore power connection will eventually deplete the battery. The nice thing with lithium is that when it is truly disconnected, it will hold it's charge for months and months if not longer. My lithium batteries sit on my workbench in the shop from mid-November to mid-April and only self-discharge a minimal amount once I have them set.
 
I knew I had some loads that depleted the batteries when it was parked. I did not realize how much though. That info explains why the previous batteries died within a short amount of time without the charger being on. What I found the most interesting though, was the free App that came with the battery gave me that information without having to buy an amp meter. Ain't technology great! :unsure:
 

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