Micheline Agilis CrossClimate versus Bridgestone Dueler Ascent

[Thomasbeau]

Hodwy folks,

I'm driving a 2015 F350 with the 6.7. I have been running the Cooper Discoverer AT3 for a few years now and it's time to replace. I am towing a Cougar 29rli 5th wheel which has a GVWR of 11,000 LB. I have been debating between the Micheline Agilis CrossClimate and the Bridgestone Dueler Ascent at Costco. I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts and opinions are based on my truck and trailer. Pros and cons of both tires are of great interest.

Thanks in advance,

Tom

 

[NH_Bulldog]

It may be a bit of an aggressive tread pattern for you based on where you live, but when our factory GY Wrangler AT Adventure with Kevlar tires wore out at less than 20,000 miles, we went with BF Goodrich Radial All Terrain TA/KO2 tires. At more than 48,000 miles on them now the tread should be enough to get us through the rest of this year (another 15,000 miles). The ride is surprisingly quiet, they have excellent on and off road handling, they do great in snow and have not hydroplaned in heavy rains or standing water. The newest version is the TA/KO3 and seem to be pretty popular. Our local VIP Tire shop price matched Tire Rack's best price, plus knocked off a little more and we got them for under $300/tire installed.

 

[Don77]

I just changed out my Michrlin Agilis CrossClimate at about 40k and they where only about 50% worn, I was very happy with them but they where 20 inch and I do not like the way the 20 inch wheels aiways leaked down and got a good price on a set of 2024 Chevy 2500hd 18inch take offs with Michelin ATs.
Sold the old wheels and tires for $600.
I am very happy so far with this setup.

Don

 

[sourdough]

The Dueler tread pattern looks a little more aggressive than the CrossClimate. Don't know how important that factor is in your area. I will say my personal opinion is that I would buy the Michelin's any day before the Bridgestones. I've had 2 sets of Duelers and disliked both - wandering, noise and harsh ride. I will say it's been a few years since I had a set of them so maybe they've improved. Michelins always perform above my expectations and last a long time (generally any tire I buy lasts an acceptable length of time/miles). I've not bought the Agilis even though they were suggested to me at DT in FL. I bought the Defender 2s at DT in Weatherford, TX about 35k miles ago and still look almost new (3rd set of Defenders). If you don't need really aggressive tread for mud or deep snow you might look into them. They have done well in up to 10" of snow or so and better on ice than an aggressive tread.

 

[Montie]

Bridgestone is just Firestone in disguise. They started calling them Bridgestone brand after all the problems in the 90s. Michelin tires are probably the best you can buy. My wife went to tire training classes put on by GM when she was a dealership service advisor. That’s what they told her in the class at least. My trucks will always get Michelin tires

 

[St. Michael]

I just got rid of a set of Bridgestones, didn’t like them much. Soft sidewalls, tended to be a bit squirmy. I’ve had all types of michelins over the years. Never been disappointed.

 

[Tireman9]

Bridgestone is just Firestone in disguise. They started calling them Bridgestone brand after all the problems in the 90s. Michelin tires are probably the best you can buy. My wife went to tire training classes put on by GM when she was a dealership service advisor. That’s what they told her in the class at least. My trucks will always get Michelin tires

Not quite. You have it backwards. Bridgestone bought Firestone after the Ford Explorer issue with underinflated tires.

 

[JRTJH]

I know this is "late information for this thread" but might help someone at a later date. The Michelin Agilis Cross Climate is not a "long distance/high mileage" tire. It's more of a "snow tire" with a commercial application. The Michelin Warranty for the tire does not have a "mileage warranty" but rather a "6 year warranty based on the remaining tread depth". That "sounds pretty good" until you start reading the footnotes in the warranty brochure for the Agilis line. Footnote 2 states: "Based on a treadwear test using tires in size LT265/70R17 121/118R on 2018 Ford F250 pickup trucks, loaded to 9800 lbs, versus the following competitors. Actual on-road results may vary. Average projected mileage to wearout: Michelin Agilis CrossClimate : 24,500 miles,"

When you "do the numbers" most people buy truck tires expecting 50-60 thousand miles of tread life. For most people with a 10-15 K annual mileage, that means 5 or 6 years on a set of tires before needing to replace them. The Agilis line "Michelin projected tread life to wearout is 24,500 miles. Somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 the typical Michelin LTX tire.

There's an old thread from a couple years ago where one member from Florida bought Agilis tires for his truck and only got around 20,000 miles before the tires were "worn out" and needed replacement.

The Agilis is a "good tire" for its intended purpose (winter tire operation in all road conditions) but is not the best choice of Michelin tires for a "true all season tire with a high mileage tread longivity"...

Just something to think about if you're looking for "tires for a truck used as a daily vehicle and to tow a travel trailer (typically summer "hot road conditions" use)...

Here's a portion of the Michelin Agilis tire warranty:

 

[Don77]

I know this is "late information for this thread" but might help someone at a later date. The Michelin Agilis Cross Climate is not a "long distance/high mileage" tire. It's more of a "snow tire" with a commercial application. The Michelin Warranty for the tire does not have a "mileage warranty" but rather a "6 year warranty based on the remaining tread depth". That "sounds pretty good" until you start reading the footnotes in the warranty brochure for the Agilis line. Footnote 2 states: "Based on a treadwear test using tires in size LT265/70R17 121/118R on 2018 Ford F250 pickup trucks, loaded to 9800 lbs, versus the following competitors. Actual on-road results may vary. Average projected mileage to wearout: Michelin Agilis CrossClimate : 24,500 miles,"

When you "do the numbers" most people buy truck tires expecting 50-60 thousand miles of tread life. For most people with a 10-15 K annual mileage, that means 5 or 6 years on a set of tires before needing to replace them. The Agilis line "Michelin projected tread life to wearout is 24,500 miles. Somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 the typical Michelin LTX tire.

There's an old thread from a couple years ago where one member from Florida bought Agilis tires for his truck and only got around 20,000 miles before the tires were "worn out" and needed replacement.

The Agilis is a "good tire" for its intended purpose (winter tire operation in all road conditions) but is not the best choice of Michelin tires for a "true all season tire with a high mileage tread longivity"...

Just something to think about if you're looking for "tires for a truck used as a daily vehicle and to tow a travel trailer (typically summer "hot road conditions" use)...

Here's a portion of the Michelin Agilis tire warranty:

I had 40K on mine and they had about 50% left on them. and I drove them for threee years in snow , ice, rain and summer. Never had a complait except for the rims leaking at the valve stems!

Don

 

[Notanlines]

We bought Michelin Defenders for years on our trucks and never missed 60k at least.