I need a blue print type of manual, the handbook is worthless, it’s a keystone cougar 2021 25res, basically a Haynes type of book

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I can do repairs but finding a shop manual would be a dream come true and would direct me right where I need to be
I know YouTube has videos but a manual would be awesome

Thanks a bunch
 
They do not exist for the trailer as a whole. If you go to some of the manufactures sites such as Lippert you can often find more detailed information. Keystone has some good information on their site,Keystone RV Owner's Support as well that exceeds the "generic" manual that is included with the unit.
 
Looking for a schematic, plumbing diagram or blueprint for a Keystone RV product is very much the same as looking for a unicorn or the golden fleece or the Michigan "Dog Man"... You simply won't find it although you'll probably find some "good quality fakes" if you search long enough.

Why? It's long been the Keystone policy that they do not share that information with anyone. Even their dealerships don't have access to that information. If you want to "champion the cause" and go head to head with Keystone, contact them and change their mind. If you do get your hands on that "grand prize" you'll have documents worth their weight in gold. You could sell them for "millions" and it's likely that Keystone dealerships would be among your first customers....

There's a "gold mine full of good information located on the Keystone website in the owner's section. There's lots of videos, lots of FAQ's that touch on nearly everything you'd need to know as an owner. But you won't find anything other than the "wiring color guide" that went into effect for every RV produced by Keystone after November 1, 2017. Here's the "official response to a FAQ published in the Owner's Section of the Keystone website:
 

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I think Keystone stores them in the Arc of the Covenant. If you find the Arc, take the schematics and leave the Arc, you'll find the schematics will provide you "much power and wealth" said with sarcasm incase anyone cannot tell. lol
 
Here's the issue. As said these manuals do not exist for most RV manufactures. Winnebago is the exception for at least their DP motorhomes. Most manufacturers don't have them so they can't be held accountable for discrepancies and variances during the build process. In many/most cases wiring is done by the "plan" in the assembler's mind that showed up that day. So if the same persons is there for a while then there may be some similarities from one RV to the next. Have someone else come in and their plan may be different how and where they run some electric lines or plumbing. For most builds you can expect the minimal amount if effort and materials used. After all since they work and are paid by the job, the faster, read that least effort, the sooner they are out to go to their farm, or bar, and do something else. Is that a cynical commentary, yes but unfortunately a pretty true picture how it's done. The QA doesn't establish firm and specific procedures therefore no meaningful QC exists.
 
When I spoke to Forest River about getting the documentation so I could find where they hid the controller for my Schwintek, they told me something similar to what chunker said. I was both impressed and surprised that he would admit to the lack of consistency during the build process. Basically, he said my best best to find the controller was to go to Helen Hunt for it. (iykyk).
 
Many people believe that RV's are built similar to "automated assembly line automobiles"... That's not the reality of how they're built... They are "one of a kind houses built by different crews of carpenters in the same building"... If you go to a "modern subdivision development", you know, the kind where every third house is the same floorplan/model as the one "two down on the other side of the street".. If you walk into those two "same floorplan models" you'll see a number of differences if you look carefully. On one, the light switches might be 48" off the floor and 6" from the door framing. On the other, the light switches might be 52" off the floor and 8" from the door frame. Why??? Because the framers put the fire stops between the studs in a different location and the electricians put the light switches on the opposite side of the stud because it was easier than drilling a hole in the fire stop...

It's the same with RV's. Different carpenters on afternoon shift use a different approach than the carpenters on morning shift. BOTH ARE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES, but they are not "identical when compared side by side"... Houses in a subdivision and RV's built by similar crews in a building will both have differences that you simply don't see when robots assemble cars doing down a production line...

So, the RV manufacturers simply can't provide an "exact schematic" because they don't have a robot that ALWAYS puts the screw in the same spot on the wall stud and NEVER drills the wiring run in the exact spot on the cabinet subframe....
 
I can do repairs but finding a shop manual would be a dream come true and would direct me right where I need to be
I know YouTube has videos but a manual would be awesome

Thanks a bunch
No such animal. Not even sure the factory uses such paperwork. If they did it would have already been secreted out onto the internet. It just doesn’t exist.
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