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Old 07-21-2012, 05:59 PM   #1
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2057 LED replacement

Converted all my lights on exterior to LED, but need a replacement 2057 LED bulb, any recommendations? Bulb is in sideways so needs good side light not with LEDS on end only!
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:20 PM   #2
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If that’s the brake/tail light, you’ll do far better by replacing the whole assembly with something like a Bargman #7. Even on cars, an 1157 type LED replacement is pretty weak.

I can’t think of a good replacement LED bulb that’s weatherproof.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:01 PM   #3
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because of the shape and holes drilled I need to stay with the Kestone original module, but would like to put in a led replacement bulb, but so many are not a flood, and just on the end, need a good flood, replacing the housing is not a real option.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:13 PM   #4
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because of the shape and holes drilled I need to stay with the Kestone original module, but would like to put in a led replacement bulb, but so many are not a flood, and just on the end, need a good flood, replacing the housing is not a real option.
The Bargman #84 LED duals are slightly larger than your #92's and will completely cover any holes.

I've spent several years watching the LED market, and the plug in replacements for the 2057's (1157's) are just not adequate for the sideways mounting in these RV S/T/T fixtures.

The #84's are a much better choice. Butyl putty tape behind the fixtures will completely seal up any holes that are left from the original fixtures.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:10 AM   #5
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As Steve said, the Bargman 84's are slightly larger than the Bargman incandescent tail lights that come from Keystone. They will cover the holes from the original lights. Be sure to use butyl putty tape to seal behind the new lights !!! Here's a picture of my Bargman 84's that I installed last year. They are much MUCH brighter than the conventional tail lights and far brighter than the replacement LED bulbs designed to install in place of the incandescent bulbs
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:03 PM   #6
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The 92 on the left includes a license plate light. I see on JRTJH’s post that he has a separate license plate light. Was that an add-on, or did it come on the trailer?

I suppose there should be enough room under the skin of the trailer to run a license plate wire down to a new hole. The 84 doesn’t have a license plate light option.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:11 PM   #7
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I replaced the stock Bargman incandescent lights that came on my Cougar with the Bargman #07 LED tail light assemblies. I also moved the license plate from the curb side to the street side...

The lights, by the time they were installed and caulked, covered all the existing holes from the old lights. This is what the new "brighter" LEDs look like (brakes on). They are actually brighter than this, the "auto" setting on the camera dims them slightly. Much better than any LED bulb replacement for the stock units.

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Old 07-22-2012, 05:41 PM   #8
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The 92 on the left includes a license plate light. I see on JRTJH’s post that he has a separate license plate light. Was that an add-on, or did it come on the trailer?

I suppose there should be enough room under the skin of the trailer to run a license plate wire down to a new hole. The 84 doesn’t have a license plate light option.
You're right, I installed a separate Bargman license plate light under the 84. I looked at trying to modify the 92's to use LED's, but found the 84's on sale for $27 each so for me, it was a "no brainer" to go with the separate LP light for $4 The LP light is not LED, but works well for what I need. My concern was that on a sunny day with the original lights, it was very difficult to see the brake lights. In fact, my wife followed me to take the trailer in for service when the refrigerator died and she said that on the way down, she didn't see the turn signals at any of the stops/turns we made. That was enough to convince me that I needed some way to make my brakes/turn signals more noticeable. These do exactly that and the entire 3 light package (2 #84's and the LP light) were less than $60 on sale at Amazon dot com.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:09 AM   #9
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As Steve said, the Bargman 84's are slightly larger than the Bargman incandescent tail lights that come from Keystone. They will cover the holes from the original lights. Be sure to use butyl putty tape to seal behind the new lights !!! Here's a picture of my Bargman 84's that I installed last year. They are much MUCH brighter than the conventional tail lights and far brighter than the replacement LED bulbs designed to install in place of the incandescent bulbs

That is the set up I have been looking at. How did you get the wire run for the license plate light?
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:00 PM   #10
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That is the set up I have been looking at. How did you get the wire run for the license plate light?
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That is the set up I have been looking at. How did you get the wire run for the license plate light?
There is no need for a separate license plate light.

There are a couple of different versions of this light fixture. Some have the mounting tabs for your license plate. They have the license plate light built into them.

Your existing tail lights are the same way. If they have the license plate tabs, the lens should have a clear panel in the bottom which illuminates the plate. If there is no tab, then the plastic lens should not have a clear bottom as there is no need for it.

Any of the Bargman STT light series will have these different versions available.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:12 PM   #12
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I thought I read somewhere that very few of the LED replacement bulbs were not DOT approved anyway so the complete light must be the way to go.
I'm ordering the Bargman asap...thanks.
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For the Bargman 07 series LED STT fixtures:

#47-07-001 is the Right S/T/T fixture
#47-07-002 is the Left S/T/T fixture with license plate tabs and light
#47-07-003 is the Left S/T/T fixture
#47-07-100 is the Right S/T/T fixture with license plate tabs and light

http://www.bargman.com/content/produ...id=8220&part=0 for Bargman catalog section on LED STT lights.
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There is no need for a separate license plate light.

There are a couple of different versions of this light fixture. Some have the mounting tabs for your license plate. They have the license plate light built into them.

Your existing tail lights are the same way. If they have the license plate tabs, the lens should have a clear panel in the bottom which illuminates the plate. If there is no tab, then the plastic lens should not have a clear bottom as there is no need for it.

Any of the Bargman STT light series will have these different versions available.
I was looking at the Bargman LED 84, 85 Series with no bracket. I did look at the 07 series but think that these would really be brighter.
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I was looking at the Bargman LED 84, 85 Series with no bracket. I did look at the 07 series but think that these would really be brighter.
The 07 series which were the last few pics and posts have the light built in.
On the 85 or 84 series, you would have to add a license plate mount and light. You might want to look over Bargman's catalog closely to see if they offer a combination fixture.

Failing that, there are a number of license plate lights on the market that will do. The back end of most Keystones is a floating skin so it would be no problem to snake the wiring from the tail light to where ever you want the license plate to be.
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Thanks, for the info on the floating wall!
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As Steve said, the Bargman 84's are slightly larger than the Bargman incandescent tail lights that come from Keystone. They will cover the holes from the original lights. Be sure to use butyl putty tape to seal behind the new lights !!! Here's a picture of my Bargman 84's that I installed last year. They are much MUCH brighter than the conventional tail lights and far brighter than the replacement LED bulbs designed to install in place of the incandescent bulbs
Did you have to modify your tow rig for turn signal compatibility? RV guys here in Vancouver WA are telling me I need to change solenoids or install a booster transformer?
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Did you have to modify your tow rig for turn signal compatibility? RV guys here in Vancouver WA are telling me I need to change solenoids or install a booster transformer?
No clear answer on that. Generally no mod required because the trailer lights are additional to the truck lights in some way. If there's a single thermal flasher, they are already flashing properly because of the incandescent bulbs in the truck. The LED's draw less current than incandescents so they'll work fine.

My Ford is computer driven with no flasher. The tow circuit is separate but draws it's flash rate from the truck's turn signals. The tow circuit can handle as little or as much current draw required up to the fused rating without triggering the bulb out condition.

It's unlikely that you'd need a booster anything because LED's draw LESS current than the comparable incandescent.

Changing incandescents to LED's in the tow vehicle is a different issue and should not be confused with doing so in the trailer.
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Did you have to modify your tow rig for turn signal compatibility? RV guys here in Vancouver WA are telling me I need to change solenoids or install a booster transformer?
Gotta love old fords. No torque converter clutch when you swap bulbs.
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On a side note. Why would you bother changing running lights? The tv takes care of them anyways. I don't get it.
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