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Old 06-07-2012, 07:06 PM   #1
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Picking up new Trailer

Hello,

First post here. We are signing for and picking up our first travel trailer (31rbdswe Hideout) this Sat. Looking for tips on what to expect and what to look for during walk through.

Thank you,
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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Use the PDI from this post:
http://www.keystonerv.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5129

Plan to block out three+ hours. Don’t sign the final paperwork until you’ve gone through the PDI.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #3
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Thanks sdayman, for the PDI. Very Helpful.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:09 PM   #4
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Welcome Tim & Ranay, and congrats on your new Hideout.

The dealership should explain/demonstrate ALL the features on your trailer... minimum of about 2-3 hrs.
Have any 'obvious' problems corrected before you sign on the dotted line & take possession.

A walk-through is information overload the very first time (we've all been there) ... take notes, and/or
if you have a cam-corder, you could video the dealer's instructions/demonstrations for future reference.

Print the 'PDI Checklist' & take it with you.

Have fun!

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Old 06-08-2012, 04:13 AM   #5
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Congratulations on the new trailer. Great floorplan!! Are you planning on using your 1/2 ton to tow?? I just looked up your trailer on Keystones website and see that it's 7800lbs dry and just under 36' long! I hate to be the barer of bad news but i'm afraid you will be over your trucks payload and possibly rear axle rating?? My trailer is 6500lbs dry and 32' long.I have the max tow pkg on my truck and i'm within 200lbs of my max payload even though i have a max tow rating of 11,200lbs which is unrealistic due to my lack of payload.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:53 AM   #6
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Thanks KanTC, I just printed the PDI and I like the cam corder idea. Will work much better than my memory chip.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:02 AM   #7
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EcoboostKev-

Unless i posted the wrong model on here I think the trailer is 7399 lbs dry and 34 ft w/tongue. I have called the Chysler dealer and the trailer dealer with my concerns on the tow rating our Ram. From everything I can find the 2010 Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 with 3.92 rear end is rated for tow of about 9900 lbs. I sure hope it works, especially getting up the hills out here. By the way, we looked at 2010 Outback, really liked it, but the owners wouldn't come down.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:03 AM   #8
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The difference is the West Coast designation.....

More than the weight of the trailer, all 1/2 ton towers need to pay attn more to exceeding PAYLOAD and the GVWR of the truck and the weight per axle. I tow with a 2012 Tundra with basically 10,000 towing capacity (actual 9700 I believe) BUT I am 200 lbss over payload with my TT tongue weight. Published Tongue weight is like 755.....actual is 940 or so. I am hundreds of pounds under the axle rating on each of the front and rear axles. Towing with a Hensley hitch and sway has not been an issue so far. Seems to tow fine. My TT weighs less than 7800 or so. There is NO WAY I could tow more trailer. And I'm basically 2,000 lb under the Tundra's capacity. May move to a 2500 Duramax diesel next year. Am going to see how the Tundra handles this setup. Have bbeen on 2 trips so far and the tow seems fine. Certainly feel like it is under control.

Strongly suggest you load up ur truck as if for a trip, fill the gas tank, and account for the real wgt of any passengers and take your rig to a CAT scale and weighing:
1.) Entire rig all hooked up.....truck front axle on one scale, truck rear axle on 2nd scale, and TT axles on 3rd scale.
2.) Truck on one scale, tongue on scale #2, TT axles on scale #3.
3.) Truck on one scale, TT on separate scale.

Tongue weight (what to add to truck payload plus you, wife, bikes cooler, wood, gas, etc.) Is Total wgt of TT alone less the weight of the rear axles of TT when all connected.

Did this last week. Took 20 mins and cost me $12 (10 for first wgt and $1 for #2 and #3.)
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:33 AM   #9
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Thanks Chris, definately sounds like this is a good idea to do and good info to keep with us. I had asked (tt dealer) if they would let me do a real life test pull with the tt but no go. Instead we went over all the specs with them and Ram dealer. Sure hope it tows fine. We are planning a fairly short trip next weekend for Father's Day as a trial run.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:43 AM   #10
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Good deal. I was considering buying a larger TT than the Cougar 29REV. My dealer hooked up a 36' Passport to one of his 1/2 ton trucks and let me drive the rig on the streets....took it to a large church parking lot, backed it up, etc. Really appreciated that!

Bottom line is we're talking about the safety of you, your family, and all others on the road. Can't screw around when it comes to that!
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:21 AM   #11
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Do yourself a favor and check your yellow payload sticker on the drivers door. You need to subtract the weight of your passengers,the cargo you plan to put in the bed, full tank of fuel(about 180lbs for 30gal.)the weight of the WDHitch itself and the tongue weight of the trailer from that number. My trailer loaded for camping weighed in at 7400lbs at my local Cat Scale and my tongue weight was 900lbs. The only things i'm able to put in my truck bed is my fishing tackle box and rods. So your tongue weight will be a little more once you load the trailer for camping.Also keep in mind that full propane tanks and battery is not included in the dry weight. My truck has a GVWR of 7700lbs and it weighed in at 7520lbs on the scale with the trailer attached. I'm guessing your Ram's GVWR is around 7200lbs. So i would do some math and see what you have. Also make sure you get a GOOD WDHitch as well. Not knowing the wheelbase of your truck and towing a 34' + trailer AKA- "wind sail" you want to make sure you have a Quality hitch with sway control. Remember that half of the fun is getting to your destination! You don't want to be peeling your fingers out of your steering wheel from white knuckle driving. Wish you the best of luck, Kevin
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