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Old 05-06-2022, 08:36 AM   #21
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Didn't folks put their old shoes inside the tires when the tubes wouldn't hold air? As for the convention and the Michelin Man that's and image I didn't need. Thanks.
Lol guys Iím talking about late night drinking at a hotel bar and being hungover in the morning ÖI should have described it differently I guess. Sorry for the mental image
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Old 05-06-2022, 08:48 AM   #22
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just fill your tires with expanding spray foamÖproblem solved lol

i thought about runflats before but i believe they are generally very low profile tires that you would see on a sports or high performance car
Kawasaki KZ1000 cop bikes had run flat tires. Harley cop bikes came with run flat tires and had stickers on the fender advising not to ride 2-up. Not sure why. I believe even BMW cop bikes had them.
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Lol guys Iím talking about late night drinking at a hotel bar and being hungover in the morning ÖI should have described it differently I guess. Sorry for the mental image
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Old 05-06-2022, 09:14 AM   #24
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Lol guys Iím talking about late night drinking at a hotel bar and being hungover in the morning ÖI should have described it differently I guess. Sorry for the mental image
Too late! I'm damaged and traumatized now and can't get the image from my mind. I think I'm going to need help. Last time this happened it involved the Pillsbury Dough Boy and it I couldn't eat biscuits for several hours..
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Old 05-06-2022, 11:00 AM   #25
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Kawasaki KZ1000 cop bikes had run flat tires. Harley cop bikes came with run flat tires and had stickers on the fender advising not to ride 2-up. Not sure why. I believe even BMW cop bikes had them.
didn’t know that…on a side note my John Deere 950 tractor has liquid ballast inside the rear tires…calcium chloride,beet juice or antifreeze can be used as well as plain water in warmer climates
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Old 05-08-2022, 04:25 AM   #26
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The only reason this popped into my brain is my wife's SUV. First time that I've dealt with run flat tires the real reason it has them is that the vehicle has a 3rd row seat and really no place to store a spare.

My surprise:
  • The gross weight of this thing is about 6500#
    was the cost to replace the tires was not outrageous compared to 'standard tires' that I would buy for the car. < $1000 for 4
    when I looked at them physically the look exactly like a standard tire - just thicker sidewalls
    where they are not a profile of 70-75...they are not a 25-30 low profile. I believe they are 50-55.

So design wise wouldn't this be a better option for smaller single axle trailers?
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BTW, Sorry I've highjacked this thread with my random thought.
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Old 05-12-2022, 09:56 AM   #28
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I have Michelin Defenders on my 2020 F350 pulling a 16,000lb Montana. The fronts lasted just under 30k miles. The rears look like they might make 50k. Flattened the inside driver-side rear the other day. I’m riding in the spare. Ran over a large staple putting 2 holes, one large and one small, about an inch apart. The tire store said it couldn’t be repaired because a single patch won’t work and they can’t put a second patch because it will overlap the first. Best deal I can find is from Simple Tire at $316 plus $16 to mount and balance. I usually get my Michelins from Costco but when I brought them the dually for new front tires, they said they would only do dually as if I bought six or more tires. Go figure. I ended up sourcing the tires from an Augusta, GA Ford dealer. Won’t do that again … but that’s another story. My truck TPMS will alarm whenever truck tire pressure falls 20lbs below prescribed. So, I can - and always do - keep my fuel performance on the small screen.
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Old 05-12-2022, 10:01 AM   #29
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Wow, you got 35k out of OE Transforce tires? OE tires suck, I don’t like Transforce tires either, OE or otherwise. Always had great luck/wear with Coopers when I had my dually. Put BFG KO2s on my current truck, will be putting Coopers on it when these wear out, or sooner if I keep having balancing problems with them. Discount Tire has seen me way too many times with complaints about high speed vibration. Every time the tires are out of balance. They’ve even had to break the tire down and rotate them on the rim to get them to balance properly.
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Old 05-12-2022, 10:05 AM   #30
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I have Michelin Defenders on my 2020 F350 pulling a 16,000lb Montana. The fronts lasted just under 30k miles. The rears look like they might make 50k. Flattened the inside driver-side rear the other day. Iím riding in the spare. Ran over a large staple putting 2 holes, one large and one small, about an inch apart. The tire store said it couldnít be repaired because a single patch wonít work and they canít put a second patch because it will overlap the first. Best deal I can find is from Simple Tire at $316 plus $16 to mount and balance. I usually get my Michelins from Costco but when I brought them the dually for new front tires, they said they would only do dually as if I bought six or more tires. Go figure. I ended up sourcing the tires from an Augusta, GA Ford dealer. Wonít do that again Ö but thatís another story. My truck TPMS will alarm whenever truck tire pressure falls 20lbs below prescribed. So, I can - and always do - keep my fuel performance on the small screen.
Use the plug kits from Walmart that you push through from the outside. Have used those for years on my side by side and car/truck tires. Ran one for 45k miles on the car until the tire wore out. Iíve heard people say not to use these, but Iíve never had a problem with them. Carry a set with me for emergency repairs on the road. If you have an air compressor, itís a heck of a lot easier than changing a tire.
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Old 05-12-2022, 10:55 AM   #31
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The things are just flat expensive nowadays thanks to ..... you know who.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:11 AM   #32
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The only reason this popped into my brain is my wife's SUV. First time that I've dealt with run flat tires the real reason it has them is that the vehicle has a 3rd row seat and really no place to store a spare.

My surprise:
  • The gross weight of this thing is about 6500#
    was the cost to replace the tires was not outrageous compared to 'standard tires' that I would buy for the car. < $1000 for 4
    when I looked at them physically the look exactly like a standard tire - just thicker sidewalls
    where they are not a profile of 70-75...they are not a 25-30 low profile. I believe they are 50-55.

So design wise wouldn't this be a better option for smaller single axle trailers?

"Run Flat" tires i.e. tires that can run for a few miles without destroying themselves have that ability primarily because the sidewalls are stiffer than the sidewall on standard tires.
To do a cost comparison for a RunFlat tire vs the tires on an RV trailer you would first need to find a RF that is rated for the same or greater load capacity. Then you would need to confirm the RF tire would fit in the wheel well of the RV and then you need to find appropriate wheels. After doing that you can then get a valid cost comparison.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:21 AM   #33
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On our way back home to TX yesterday and a fellow waved at us, pointed to the passenger side of the truck and made a motion like a rolling wheel. I thought what the heck? Finally found a spot on I20 between Ft. Worth and Weatherford; 80mph traffic flying by....not fun. Found one of my OE Firestone Transforce tires was low and going flat - with the 5th wheel hooked up. Geico got us a guy out and put on the spare and I'm here in an RV park departing tomorrow for our final leg. Long intro to talk about a couple of things;

The Firestone Transforce OE tires; this is the 2nd HD truck that I bought that came with them OE. First set one tire got a cut in the sidewall at about 36k from some unknown anomaly. On this set one went flat yesterday at 35k. Don't know the cause and didn't care to find out, just pulled them all off and had Michelin Defenders put on this morning. I was/am not happy and certainly much poorer.

Has anyone else had issues with the Transforce tires? I don't like them because they are so hard riding, pound/slap on every road irregularity and the rubber compound is just really hard. After 20k or so they just "slap" on everything. I think that hard rubber compound is what is letting the tires fail...and yes, I take care of my tires meticulously. I've only had 2 tire failures in several decades, both Firestone Transforce AT 285/60R 20. I'll be getting a new truck in a bit and wondering if those things should come off before I leave the lot like TKs??

Next, tire costs; boys, tire prices are out of sight these days. Last set of Defenders were approx. $250 or so installed each. Today the Michelins were 358 each; total cost for 4 was $1908....4 tires $1908!! That included road hazard and lifetime rotation/balance.

One last thing to think about; my truck and RV have tpms. I always worry about the trailer tires...not the truck. I checked truck tire pressure yesterday morning before leaving Shreveport and all was fine. Due to my fixation on watching gas mileage to see what the trailer was doing to me I had the computer on gas mileage, not tire pressure - BAD mistake. I should have been watching the tire pressures and not worrying about mileage as it will be what it is. Just some things to think about as you drive, tow etc. and go have fun. Keep safe out there.



Sorry to hear you had tire problems. BUT if you aren't interested in why the tire when flat and you admit to having the TPMS turned off I am wondering how you know it was the tire's fault? I don't think you claiming that only Firestone Transforce tires go flat? but what else are we to think.


There is a reason I and other "tire experts" strongly suggest that people get and use TPMS. "Use" being the important word. Wondering if you had the TPMS turned on and if you had received a warning before the tire was trashed because of a nail or screw or similar, would you still be blaming the tire?



I see you purchased Road Hazard insurance with your Michelin. A snide comment might be why? Don't you trust the Michelines to be better than the Transforce?



I have Thansforce HT tires in 16" size on my MH and have had no flats of tire failures after about 60,000 on two sets. I did but Road Hazard ins because stuff happens and the roads out there are getting worse all the time. So as they say "Your mileage may vary"
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:23 AM   #34
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I have transforce on my 2014 Ram 3500. Just put on my second set the first one lasted me 60,000. Very happy no problems and most of those miles are towing.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:30 AM   #35
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Wow, had my Michelens installed at Costco on 1/29 for. $1,176.00 all in. Haven't checked the price today but driving to the doctor this a.m. diesel is $5.99/gal so who knows. It's just gotten more out of hand with no end in sight. As for Firestone tires I've never bought a replacement set. Owned several new cars that had them as OE and couldn't wait for them to wear out. Each time it was a short wait, at least that was my experience.



Yes OE tires tend to wear out faster but this is because the car companies prioritize fuel economy noise and traction higher than wear. Different performance characteristics are trade-offs when designing tires and having designed a number of different tires I can tell you that fuel economy is almost always #1 or #2 on the performance priority list. Tire wear many times is way down the list sometimes not even on the list.
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I just replaced the Michelins on my truck with Sailuns. The quote for Michelins was was approximately $1590.00 I got the Sailuns for $740.00 mounted, balanced and free rotation. We've had two sets of Sailuns on our Montana and never a single tire issue so I decided to go ahead and try a set on truck and keep the $750.00 difference in my pocket
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They're not from China. Plant Code 1B7 - Dothan AL
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:39 AM   #38
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there must be a tire convention going on Ö.a couple of newer tire threads and no word from our resident specialistsÖ probably a holiday inn express in Akron with ďdo not disturbĒ signs on all the doors after a wild night partying with the michelin man

Sorry but I do have a life and do not camp out on this forum. I try and follow 4 to 6 different RV forums but also write a blog on RV tires for RVTravel.com newsletter, but it seems that few bother to read and follow the advice given on the blog. If you have an urgent question you can email me and probably get an answer within a day or so.
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If your trading trucks in the near future & the new truck has the POS Firestone tires on it I'd have them swapped for your current Michelins, even with a few thousand miles they'd be much better than the Firestones.
My company required us the run either Firestone or Goodyear tires on their vehicles, personally I wouldn't put either on any of my vehicles.


Yes, DW told me that immediately when I mentioned a new truck. Finding that truck may be quite the order. Made a round yesterday looking at a few dealers within approx. 60 miles and new trucks are almost non existent; 1 ton SRW = zero. Doubt I could wait out ordering one because I know me.
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Wow, you got 35k out of OE Transforce tires? OE tires suck, I donít like Transforce tires either, OE or otherwise. Always had great luck/wear with Coopers when I had my dually. Put BFG KO2s on my current truck, will be putting Coopers on it when these wear out, or sooner if I keep having balancing problems with them. Discount Tire has seen me way too many times with complaints about high speed vibration. Every time the tires are out of balance. Theyíve even had to break the tire down and rotate them on the rim to get them to balance properly.
I just installed a set of Coopers on my clunker and the price at Walmart was over $100 a tire less than DT or Amazon, etc.
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