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Old 11-23-2021, 08:46 AM   #21
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Good morning,

I am also looking at these tires: TOYO OPEN COUNTRY A/T III All-Season
load range E.

When comparing it to the Dueler A/T Revo 3, E rated tire, I wonder if it does better in the snow?

I just want a really good tire, not much road whine and able to handle the load of the rig.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Brian
No idea what size tire you're looking for, but you might want to also check the Sailun Terramax ATS4. I have them on my F250 in the 275 70R18 LRE size. They are more quiet on the road and have better snow/ice traction than the Michelin LTX tires they replaced. So far, after almost 40K miles, they show no appreciable wear, no abnormal wear and I'd suspect I'll get another 30-40K miles before needing to replace them. At 1/2 the price of Michelins, it seems like a "win/win".

WalMart is where I bought mine, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sailun-Te...25-R/634205404 The first photo is not the Terramax AT thread pattern, but the other photos are correct. Somehow, WalMart posted the "highway tread" on that page.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:52 AM   #22
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Yes it is up to the task. I have an 1800 payload, and even with the 800 lb tongue wt, I am under the max.

I am interested in others thoughts between these two brands.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:56 AM   #23
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I put these on my F150 a few months ago. I have put less than 2k on them but have driven in almost every condition except snow, which will be soon. There is a big difference in grip on wet pavement. I am liking them more than my OEM tires. Time will tell about the longevity of them.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fortune-T...3?athbdg=L1100
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:24 AM   #24
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Also, the other reason i am leaning toward these two brands is, Mopar is offering buy 3, get 1 for $1.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:00 AM   #25
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The following PDF file has the most comprehensive information for replacement tires. It follows all of the acceptable regulations and standards for tire replacements.

Remember, TRA standardizes tire load inflation charts independent from brands. In other words; a LT235/85R16 LRE from any brand will have identical load inflation values.

https://www.toyotires.com/media/2125...s_20170203.pdf.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:46 PM   #26
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Good morning,

I am also looking at these tires: TOYO OPEN COUNTRY A/T III All-Season
load range E.

When comparing it to the Dueler A/T Revo 3, E rated tire, I wonder if it does better in the snow?

I just want a really good tire, not much road whine and able to handle the load of the rig.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Brian

What was the OE tire size on the truck? The lower the profile the harder they are when inflated to max psi to carry a trailer. Not only that but the short sidewalls can let a pothole etc. drive the rubber right into the wheel rim....don't ask me how I know. I don't like anything "thinner" than a 60 profile and that is on a larger tire (285/60r20).

Bridgestone or Toyo?? I've owned both brands and don't like either (2 sets of each) but that's just me, some folks love them. I HAVE owned the Toyo Open Country III AT; it was a "noisy" tire (whine) compared to many tires I've owned. A full tilt mud tread is louder but the Toyo was louder, IMO, than most AT tires. They did do pretty well in the snow for what they were. I tried 2 sets of Bridgestones, both AT tread (not Revo) but they both felt "squirrely" and took them off.

A consideration with M/S tires, A/Ts etc. is the lack of traction on wet pavement. They're great for dirt, sand, mud etc. with a trailer hooked up but wet pavement is the bane of an off road/AT tire. With that the owner then needs to decide what he will predominantly be doing when behind the wheel....snow, highway etc.
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Old 11-24-2021, 07:29 AM   #27
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The original tire size is 275/55/20. I am also looking at BFGOODRICH
ALL-TERRAIN T/A KO 2All-Season. The ire forum on this site seemed to give them good marks.

Its D rated, so will this still work OK for what I need? The ride may be a little more forgiving vs an E rated tire.

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Old 11-24-2021, 02:26 PM   #28
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Getting ready to replace mine on my tow vehicle. I have the BFG AT KO2’s on it. Hate ‘em. Poor wear and a rough ride. I’ve narrowed it down to Toyo AT3’s or Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s. I want AT tires as I need to deal with snow, ice and my truck also has an 8.5’ Boss VPlow to keep the driveway plowed. I can live with a little noise to get the winter traction I want. Both of the above choices are well liked in the tire forums.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:33 PM   #29
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Also, the other reason i am leaning toward these two brands is, Mopar is offering buy 3, get 1 for $1.
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Dealerships are very VERY good at "masking the price with alluring advertisements"... As an example, buy 3, get 1 for $1. If the cost of the 3 is $350 each, total would be $1051 for 4 tires.. If WalMart or Discount Tire sells them every day for $225 each.... Cost would be $900 for the same 4 tires..

Do your math before committing to purchase... I will admit that dealerships do have some great tire and battery pricing, but it's not always the case.....
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Old 11-26-2021, 06:03 PM   #30
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You are absolutely correct, I started looking around and discount tire has better options and pricing.

I am also looking at YOKOHAMA GEOLANDAR A/T G015, it seems to be a little less aggressive that the BFG TA KO2.

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Old 03-14-2022, 07:28 AM   #31
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Tire update

Good morning
Just wanted to update that I bought new tires last week, and went with e BFG KO2's, 275/55/20, D rated. And I plan on adding the 1000HD air bags this week.

I have not pulled the trailer, yet, but I hope for a mark improvement over the Bridgestone Duelers that were on there. There were very soft, and I felt like there was not wt. on the front end which affected the steering.

Thanks again for the help and advice!

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Congrats on the new tires. I hope the BFGs work out for you. The AT TK KO2s are a fairly aggressive tread for towing a heavy trailer so keep that in mind. Traction on wet/slippery pavement will be compromised and, if like the BFG TKs I've owned will start to "sing" about in about 5k miles. Good luck and hope that ride is better.
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A basically off road tread pattern with a "D" rated sidewall pulling a 30' camper with likely 1,000 lbs on the ball counting the hitch. It might be an improvement but don't expect a miracle. Just being realistic. At the end of the day youstill have a 1/2 ton truck with soft springs and tires designed to flex over rocks and ruts. Neither are designed for towing. Stay safe and good luck.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:11 AM   #34
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Well, I replaced the P rated OEM tires on my 1/2 ton with the BFG KO2's pulling a 26foot trailer. My personnel experience is the KO2's made a BIG difference! Is there a better tire if you are just concerned with towing? Probably.

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what psi do you run, both when towing and just driving in town?

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what psi do you run, both when towing and just driving in town?

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I keep it simple at 45psi all the time....towing and or running errons.
When I'm ready to hook up the 38' Outback I put 50psi in the truck airbags and off I go.
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I also have Bilstein shocks all around with a Hellwig rear sway bar.
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Old 03-14-2022, 11:23 AM   #38
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what psi do you run, both when towing and just driving in town?

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Your tires are rated at 65psi and that's what I would run them at. You are carrying a 7300lb. trailer on a 1/2 ton truck; the less "squiggle" and "wiggle" you allow by firming up those tires the better off you are. There is NO reason to put on HD tires and air them up like a P tire when towing.
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I think whatever air pressure you set your vehicle at that feels stable. I have E rated tires on my Outback and always air them cold at 80psi.
The truck tires when I had E's would be aired up to no more than 45-50psi cold.
It worked fine for me and their was NO wiggle or sway, so do what works for you. Obviously your not going to air your BF Goodriches like a P rated tire?
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For towing I inflate the KO2's to 65psi. I run them at 45ish when not towing.
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