Pay Load

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by flybouy

What I can find on the 2010 model from https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2010-...n-300mp-tr8566 :

Dry Weight 11,246 lbs.Payload Capacity 3,144 lbs. so GVW of 14,500 lbs so 20% pin weight of 2,900 lbs. What's the payload capacity for truck? I'm guessing that you are seriously overweight considering that you state "that we regularly overload."

The air bags weight come off your payload and do not increase it. Your mpg claims I would think are the highest I've ever seen as well.

I don't much care to get into his payload but the boy gets 30 mpg when not pulling. IMAGINE THAT. Bet you don't see 30 mpg in your Ford bwhahahaha How many other 3/4 ton Ram owners see 30 mpg (not towing)????

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

I don't much care to get into his payload but the boy gets 30 mpg when not pulling. IMAGINE THAT. Bet you don't see 30 mpg in your Ford bwhahahaha How many other 3/4 ton Ram owners see 30 mpg (not towing)????

That's because it runs on fairy dust but the rainbow coming out the exhaust pipe is pretty.

[xrated]

Originally Posted by flybouy

What I can find on the 2010 model from https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2010-...n-300mp-tr8566 :

Dry Weight 11,246 lbs.Payload Capacity 3,144 lbs. so GVW of 14,500 lbs so 20% pin weight of 2,900 lbs. What's the payload capacity for truck? I'm guessing that you are seriously overweight considering that you state "that we regularly overload."

The air bags weight come off your payload and do not increase it. Your mpg claims I would think are the highest I've ever seen as well.

But.....but....we saw it on the internet, so it must be true!

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by xrated

But.....but....we saw it on the internet, so it must be true!

LOL! It was a video in between the bigfoot and the lizard man alien right!

[notanlines]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

I don't much care to get into his payload but the boy gets 30 mpg when not pulling. IMAGINE THAT. Bet you don't see 30 mpg in your Ford bwhahahaha How many other 3/4 ton Ram owners see 30 mpg (not towing)????

Originally Posted by flybouy

That's because it runs on fairy dust but the rainbow coming out the exhaust pipe is pretty.

Originally Posted by xrated

But.....but....we saw it on the internet, so it must be true!

Originally Posted by flybouy

LOL! It was a video in between the bigfoot and the lizard man alien right!

I'm not sure that any of you are being as blunt as the situation calls for. And no, I'm not saying any more. I have to leave a little space for Northofyou1.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by MikeRP

https://www.whitesidecars.com/vehicl...B%204WD/976496

I found this one the other day. Dealer says it has 4240 lb payload.

I love the truck. Saw it when I had my 2018 in for service.

Stay w 3500 if you can.

You need to go down there and get it! That is a nice truck I promise - and 6 months later you'll still be trying to figure out all the gizmos.

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by sourdough

You need to go down there and get it! That is a nice truck I promise - and 6 months later you'll still be trying to figure out all the gizmos.

Gizmos? Does it have KeyTV? I would take an actual look at the payload sticker in the door frame myself. Whenever "dealer says" it sets off an alarm in my head.

[saber707]

3/4 ton will not cut the mustard with those RV's. Must go with a 1 ton.

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by Frosty46

WE own a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Big Horn 6.7 Cummins crew cab 8 foot bed. It has been fully deleted and Air Lift suspension installed. We pull a 2010 Raptor MB300 35' toy hauler that we regularly overload. WE pull everything well hills usually not requiring a shift down of our six speed auto. Get 30+ mpg empty and 14.7 averages pulling the trailer. Can get over 18 if we stay at 55 mph.

I got some ocean front property in Arizona for sale also!

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

I got some ocean front property in Arizona for sale also!

I always thought of you more a Florida mountain type!

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

Gizmos? Does it have KeyTV? I would take an actual look at the payload sticker in the door frame myself. Whenever "dealer says" it sets off an alarm in my head.

Key TV? KEY TV?? If it had KeyTV I'd be in the middle of gutting it like I'm going to do when I get home. Not reading back but didn't he post the payload on that truck? Like 4240?

[xrated]

Originally Posted by notanlines

I'm not sure that any of you are being as blunt as the situation calls for. And no, I'm not saying any more. I have to leave a little space for Northofyu.

Yea, you're right!....so I'll just add this. My Honda Civic 1800CC 4 banger only gets 34 mpg.......makes me wish I'd bought a Dodge now!

[Roscommon48]

forget the numbers, I decided you should get a one ton...that should end the discussion.
now you'll get the opinions of dually vs srw. Isn't life grand.

[MikeRP]

Originally Posted by sourdough

Key TV? KEY TV?? If it had KeyTV I'd be in the middle of gutting it like I'm going to do when I get home. Not reading back but didn't he post the payload on that truck? Like 4240?

It’s a gorgeous truck, but there are no big rebates right now on the Ram HD trucks. So it’s to pricy to trade. I have a Bighorn 2018 with the HO Cummins and the Aisin. But I eventually want to go with a long bed truck.

This dealer is a very good friend of mine and he knows how to read a payload sticker. I saw another one tonight at Performance Ram. All White. Payload sticker was like 4065.

But my dream truck was there. The medium grey, limited, dually. Lodi 4.

Gorgeous. I may try to trade on that one. Lodi 1 was a 1989 Grey Buick LeSabre. Lodi 2 Grey Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, Lodi 3 is my Grey 2018 Ram 3500. Old Creedence CW for you old farts.

Peace

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by MikeRP

It’s a gorgeous truck, but there are no big rebates right now on the Ram HD trucks. So it’s to pricy to trade. I have a Bighorn 2018 with the HO Cummins and the Aisin. But I eventually want to go with a long bed truck.

This dealer is a very good friend of mine and he knows how to read a payload sticker. I saw another one tonight at Performance Ram. All White. Payload sticker was like 4065.

But my dream truck was there. The medium grey, limited, dually. Lodi 4.

Gorgeous. I may try to trade on that one. Lodi 1 was a 1989 Grey Buick LeSabre. Lodi 2 Grey Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, Lodi 3 is my Grey 2018 Ram 3500. Old Creedence CW for you old farts.

Peace

Sounds like you're stuck in Lodi!!!!

[JJaxon]

I had a 2017 Ram 2500, cc 4x4, diesel. Payload was far below what I needed. I went up to the same truck but 2019 3500 single rear wheel, 4200lbs payload. Even in that category 3500s are not all created equal. Find a truck you like and first ask what the yellow ringed sticker inside the door says that truck is. Do not go by the website numbers for a truck, they are general, you need specific. I found a difference of as much as 600lbs on similar equipped trucks. Buy the payload you need, for safety, you wont regret it.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by MikeRP

It’s a gorgeous truck, but there are no big rebates right now on the Ram HD trucks. So it’s to pricy to trade. I have a Bighorn 2018 with the HO Cummins and the Aisin. But I eventually want to go with a long bed truck.

This dealer is a very good friend of mine and he knows how to read a payload sticker. I saw another one tonight at Performance Ram. All White. Payload sticker was like 4065.

But my dream truck was there. The medium grey, limited, dually. Lodi 4.

Gorgeous. I may try to trade on that one. Lodi 1 was a 1989 Grey Buick LeSabre. Lodi 2 Grey Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, Lodi 3 is my Grey 2018 Ram 3500. Old Creedence CW for you old farts.

Peace

Old farts? CCW? Why I knew them boys afore they knowd what a geetar streeng wuz.

As far as Lodi 4....go get it this weekend and post back with pics. On my road to being an "old fart" the first time I looked back and said "I wish I had xxxxx (done this, bought that)....." I told DW "that ain't happenin again"; we won't be back down this road again so we've gotta take it all in on this first ride.

[Rayray04]

Originally Posted by sourdough

A 3/4 ton of any kind, and particularly a diesel, is incapable of safely towing either of those trailers. What is the payload/gvw/gawr/gvw for that vehicle? Having owned one I can tell you it's not enough to safely "carry", not "pull", those trailers.

When everything you read says you shouldn't do it.... Look at the numbers realistically, don't try to find reasons you have a "special" situation. They are what they are and you need to adjust down on trailer expectations or up in truck size... Here's a Cedar Creek 33lk; beyond a 3/4;

https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/fifth...tion/33IK/1118

Please note that the brochure pin weight is meaningless. Take 20% of the gvw of the trailer and subtract it from the payload of that 3/4 truck...what's that leave?

Question .. why are we using the gvw of trailer?,, what if we don’t max out the gvw of the trailer?,, my trailer is 11500lbs dry and the max weight I put in it about 1000 lbs .. which brings down the payload,, no?

[MarkEHansen]

You really should use the actual weight of the trailer, which you can get by taking it to the scales and getting it weighed.

However, as an estimation, I use the GVW, since I need to be concerned about not just what it weighs today, but what it might weigh in the future, as stuff inevitably gets added.

Keep in mind that when you weigh the trailer with empty holding tanks, you simply can't guarantee that you will never pull the trailer with full tanks. Stuff happens. I want to be prepared for that.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by Rayray04

Question .. why are we using the gvw of trailer?,, what if we don’t max out the gvw of the trailer?,, my trailer is 11500lbs dry and the max weight I put in it about 1000 lbs .. which brings down the payload,, no?

Mark addressed your question well. As he said, all those things a person does to rationalize getting a trailer that will be over the truck gvw; "I travel light", I'll never carry water, I just travel a few miles, and on and on etc. are not wise.

Of course a person could buy a 12000 lb. dry trailer and throw in a toothpick and be done and always be light....but it's sure hard to enjoyable camp that way. My trailer is approx. the same as yours dry; there's no way we can travel and do what we do with 1000lbs. of gear, and I carry a load in my truck as well.

All that to say that trying to "get by" with a "too small" truck by saying you'll always be light is just fooling yourself. Just like running with empty tanks; there WILL come a time that you travel with liquid in them due any number of circumstances.

No matter what you load you use the gvw in calculations to keep you safe and give you a cushion. Then, you need to take it to a scale to make absolutely sure that "little bit of stuff" didn't suddenly grow and put you over gvw of the trailer.