RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Fleet | Keystone RV Models > Travel Trailers
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 02-29-2020, 02:37 PM   #1
Bbouch84
Member
 
Bbouch84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: sioux city
Posts: 58
Post Outside lock replacement

So as we all know we all have the same key for the outside locks IE storage passthru and what not. There is a company that makes locks that you can have keyed alike for 12.00 a piece plus shipping..

Well the wife and i took a little trip to lowes today to get a few random things and i had the idea to look for a lock well i found it.

They are Gate locks by all the door locks and what not you want the ones that would fit the thickness of your doors. For us for example on our 2020 Bullet were for a 13/16th thick door. Now here is the bonus you can see the key number on the key IE 321133 just look through a few of them for how every many you need and match the number on the key and BINGO keyed alike for 5.00 a piece you wont be keyed like every other camper in the world.
__________________

__________________
TV: 2014 Ram 1500 QC 5.7L 8spd 3:21 gears

1st camper: 2001 Aero Cub C19
Current Camper: 2020 Bullet 261rbs
Bbouch84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 02:41 PM   #2
notanlines
Senior Member
 
notanlines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 4,378
Let's look at this through a different lens. When have you ever in your life talked to an RV'er who had another RV'er use their key to enter the basement (pass-thru) and steal something? I thought not....
__________________

__________________
Jim in Memphis
Wife of 48 years is Brenda
2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2017 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2015 26TBUD Salem Forest River (For Alaska Trip)
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
notanlines is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 09:28 PM   #3
Bbouch84
Member
 
Bbouch84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: sioux city
Posts: 58
Actually ive seen a few times where stuff has been stolen out of basements and pass thrus even bicycles have been stolen in broad day light
__________________
TV: 2014 Ram 1500 QC 5.7L 8spd 3:21 gears

1st camper: 2001 Aero Cub C19
Current Camper: 2020 Bullet 261rbs
Bbouch84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 10:59 PM   #4
LHaven
Senior Member
 
LHaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Wickenburg
Posts: 1,384
Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines View Post
Let's look at this through a different lens. When have you ever in your life talked to an RV'er who had another RV'er use their key to enter the basement (pass-thru) and steal something? I thought not....
No, but I've heard of cases where common thieves got into storage yards with a CH751 and cherry-picked all the cargo compartments.
__________________
2019 Cougar 26RBSWE
2019 Ford F-250
LHaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2020, 11:42 PM   #5
KRumm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 115
A good thief would bring a crowbar and only bother with the locked one... ;-)
KRumm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 05:41 AM   #6
flybouy
Site Team
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 5,395
Years ago had my front storage pass thru pillaged, as did the rest of the patrons. The jerk hit the lot during mid winter. Even locked all the trailers back up so no one would notice. The security camera tapes were "recorded over" every 7 days so they were useless.
__________________
Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
flybouy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 06:27 PM   #7
Tbos
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Solomons
Posts: 3,874
Years ago we were locked out of our trailer. A friend used his 751 key to open our pass through so I could get my tools and break in to our camper.
__________________
Tom
2019 Alpine 3651RL
2016 F350 CC DRW
Tbos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 06:27 PM   #8
Customer1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 414
A stout screwdriver will open a baggage door faster than the key. Criminals don't care how much damage they cause to the door.
__________________
2018 Cougar 26RBS
2016 Chevrolet 3500DRW D/A
Customer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2020, 09:50 PM   #9
travelin texans
Senior Member
 
travelin texans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho Peak Rv Resort
Posts: 3,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customer1 View Post
A stout screwdriver will open a baggage door faster than the key. Criminals don't care how much damage they cause to the door.
Totally agree!
Regardless of how much $$$ you spend on locks a crowbar or large screwdriver will get them, RV doors & baggage compartments, open in about a second & a half, but if it gives you piece of mind.
__________________
Danny & Linda
Former '13 Redwood FB owner
Currently rvless!
travelin texans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2020, 07:09 AM   #10
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 19,587
RV baggage doors are usually made of an aluminum frame and a sheet of 0.020 "skin". Some have 1/2" or 3/4" rigid foam behind that, usually with a vinyl backing skin on the inside of the door.

RV entry doors are built the same but the rigid foam is 1" or 1.25" thick.

All it takes to "break into" any RV is a "stout kick, a solid hit or a 12" screwdriver applied to the thin aluminum frame"...

It's been said that "Locks keep honest people honest but a crook will ignore the lock"....

With that in mind, I'd suggest, "An honest person wouldn't use a CH751 key in your locks any more than they would a IE 321133 (or any other coded key). A crook, on the other hand, likely won't be slowed down any appreciable amount by any lock, no matter how unique or how strong it might be, when they want into an RV with its "thin skinned door systems".....

It's the door, not the lock that's the "weakest link" in any RV. Changing locks is a "feel good exercise for the owner" with no improvement in overall security for the RV.
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 08:29 AM   #11
thefulminator
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lynnwood, WA
Posts: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customer1 View Post
A stout screwdriver will open a baggage door faster than the key. Criminals don't care how much damage they cause to the door.
True but I don't want it to be easy for anyone to get into my storage compartments. This is the same reason I have a locking mailbox at home.

When we purchased our trailer I installed combi-cam combination locks. They worked great but as my wife and I get older the numbers on the locks got too hard to read especially at night.

Last year I ordered tubular key locks from https://shoprvlocks.com/. They can do everything custom for what I thought was a decent price. They have several types of locks for different door thicknesses, cam lengths, cam bends and key colors. You can order all the locks with the same key and they keep your order info so if you ever want more locks or keys they have the key number on file.

__________________
2009 Silverado LT 1500 4X4 Crew Cab, 9500 lb towing capacity with Putnam XDR and Equalizer 10K, + 2013 Outback 250RS, Truffle
Me ('65), DW ('68), DS1 ('99), DS2 ('03), Dwoof ('12)


We all bleed Orange and Black, GO BEAVS
https://www.outbackers.com/forums/upl..._1466_7959.jpg
thefulminator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 12:57 PM   #12
ckittila
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 13
You can do this, but...

Locks are available all over Amazon. I changed a couple of mine, but here is what I learned.
1. Be sure to measure each cabinet you plan to change the lock on. Be sure to buy one long enoughóbetter yet measure the shaft on each lock you plan to replace.
2. Some of the more secure barrel key locks (like in vending machines) do not release the key. The key is captive in some of these locks until they are locked. Some may release the key in both the locked and unlocked state. There are benefits in both types. For example, I have a captive key lock on my panel for my hydraulic slide control. I donít want people monkeying around with my controls and I want this cabinet locked after I set the jacks. With a captive key, I always remember to lock it because I canít get my keys back until I do.
3. The downside of changing these locks is when you take it to the shop. You must remember to give the shop all the special keys for all the cabinets. You also must get them all back from the shop.
4. Get extra keys. If you lose your keys while camping, you canít get into your cabinets.
5. Aside from locking my control cabinet, I donít see a lot of merit in changing these lock out. I have never had anything stolen and I take solace in the comfort I can find a 751 from any neighbor.
ckittila is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 01:53 PM   #13
Hoopy Frood
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Platte City, MO
Posts: 13
$10.00 lock and 10 cent door. Waste of money.
__________________
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"
Hoopy Frood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 03:35 PM   #14
Cougar Jim
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines View Post
Let's look at this through a different lens. When have you ever in your life talked to an RV'er who had another RV'er use their key to enter the basement (pass-thru) and steal something? I thought not....
Lets look at this through a positive lens.....2 yrs ago we were at a campground in Cody, WY when sustained high winds came on. The newbie across the aisle left his awning out when he was gone for the day. his 21ft camper began moving sideways. Five guys grabbed the awning to steady it until I could get my ring of keys and unlock the entry door and retract his awning. saving his RV from damage. Locked it when we left.

I work part-time for a very large RV dealer and with my ring of keys I can unlock any RV EXCEPT for the deadbolt locks.
__________________
Cougar Jim
2019 Cougar Half Ton 22RBS
2018 Ram HD Big Horn 4x4 Mega Cab Diesel
Cougar Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 04:00 PM   #15
LHaven
Senior Member
 
LHaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Wickenburg
Posts: 1,384
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customer1 View Post
A stout screwdriver will open a baggage door faster than the key. Criminals don't care how much damage they cause to the door.



True, but when I can show a damaged door, my insurance company is more inclined to believe I was actually burgled. If he gets in and out with a key, I'm pretty much up the creek.
__________________
2019 Cougar 26RBSWE
2019 Ford F-250
LHaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 04:32 PM   #16
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 12,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cougar Jim View Post
I work part-time for a very large RV dealer and with my ring of keys I can unlock any RV EXCEPT for the deadbolt locks.

Must be a HUGE ring.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2020, 08:41 PM   #17
Cougar Jim
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57 View Post
Must be a HUGE ring.
Actually a ring of about 15 keys with really only four keys being used the most ! 😎
__________________
Cougar Jim
2019 Cougar Half Ton 22RBS
2018 Ram HD Big Horn 4x4 Mega Cab Diesel
Cougar Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2020, 08:25 AM   #18
RET.LEO
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Quincy
Posts: 46
The whole thing after 17 years experience with "midnight shoppers" is the more you can do to either slow them down, make it louder to "shop" or to encourage them to move to a easier "midnight store" the better.
There is no way to 100% keeping the "midnight shoppers" out if they really want something but the more you can do to discourage their "shopping habits" the better.
Good post Bbouch84
RET.LEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2020, 08:43 AM   #19
flybouy
Site Team
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 5,395
Quote:
Originally Posted by RET.LEO View Post
The whole thing after 17 years experience with "midnight shoppers" is the more you can do to either slow them down, make it louder to "shop" or to encourage them to move to a easier "midnight store" the better.
There is no way to 100% keeping the "midnight shoppers" out if they really want something but the more you can do to discourage their "shopping habits" the better.
Good post Bbouch84
Couldn't agree more. I would add that of all the thousands of people that have a 751 key not ONE of them (or their family) would steal? That's naive. How well do you know the people that have a camper in your storage lot? Hell, most people don't know the people that live a couple of hundred feet from their front door.

So here's my point. Let's say you are in the storage lot winterizing you're camper. A guy pulls up and starts unloading the storage compartment into his truck. He has a key, he smiles, he says hello and makes a statement like "it's that time of the year, time to unload and put things away for another winter!". Chances are, you think he belongs and you go about your business. I'm thinking if he's got a crowbar it would go differently.

ckittila .. regarding your post, why buy locks with different keys? I rekeyed all my locks with the same key. That way I only need one key. As for spares, well now I have plenty of those! I replaced 4 locksets to match the front door. Each replacement lock set, as well as the original, came with 2 keys each for a total of 10 keys. I have a key on the key ring for the camper, one on the keyring for each truck, and one in the center console of each truck

It's a personal choice thing but for my meager money it's justified. YMMV
__________________
Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
flybouy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2020, 03:06 PM   #20
skids
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Florissant
Posts: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cougar Jim View Post
Lets look at this through a positive lens.....2 yrs ago we were at a campground in Cody, WY when sustained high winds came on. The newbie across the aisle left his awning out when he was gone for the day. his 21ft camper began moving sideways. Five guys grabbed the awning to steady it until I could get my ring of keys and unlock the entry door and retract his awning. saving his RV from damage. Locked it when we left.

I work part-time for a very large RV dealer and with my ring of keys I can unlock any RV EXCEPT for the deadbolt locks.
That was a very good deed by you folks. I hope they gave you their thanks!
__________________

__________________
Skids
2019 Bullet 248RKS
skids is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RVģ is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×