Payload and Towing Capacity Only Part of the Issue

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by cookinwitdiesel

The spec sheet difference between 2500HD CC Diesel and 3500HD CC Diesel SRW for the GMC is 1400#. The GMC 3500 HD SRW has a GVRW of 11600#. I am sure it will vary between brands. The point is, always get the 1 ton pickup haha - you won't regret it

I will start with this
We are currently looking at updating our TV, we currently tow a 2005 Keystone Copper Canyon 293FWSLS (GVW 12,500#) with a 2001 Ram 2500 CTD. Yep over the pathetic 8,800# GVWR, but tows great and handles well, and under axle and tire ratings.
So reason for updating is two, First, it is a 5 speed manual and while DW can drive a manual, she doesn't like the power of the CTD, so I am the sole tow driver. Second, is that while the unit tows very well being as far over GVWR as we are keeps eating at me.

So currently we are looking at a new or newer Ram CTD auto DRW.

Why DRW you ask? Well based on my research and that of others the difference between a 250/2500 and a 350/3500 other than the larger GVWR number on the VIN is minuscule. You can likely get the same springs and tires by simply adding a Camper or Max tow package to a 250/2500.

I feel if we were to get a new or newer 3500 SRW it would be a lateral move.

In addition I would be a hypocrite as I convinced our DD to get a used Ram 3500 DRW to tow her four horse GN trailer.

I do believe that anyone looking to step up from a 150/1500 to a 250/2500 should just go straight to the 350/3500 SRW, that way unless towing very heavy they will avoid the issue we currently have.

[itat]

rhagfo, if someone is looking for a diesel engine, I absolutely agree that you should skip the 3/4 ton and go straight to a 1 ton. However, if a person is towing well under 12,000# and not towing in the mountains, then a 3/4 ton gasser is a viable option. It does have a limited range of applicability though.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by itat

rhagfo, if someone is looking for a diesel engine, I absolutely agree that you should skip the 3/4 ton and go straight to a 1 ton. However, if a person is towing well under 12,000# and not towing in the mountains, then a 3/4 ton gasser is a viable option. It does have a limited range of applicability though.

I would agree, not looking at a mid or larger 5er, TT in the 6K to 10K range, a gas 3/4 ton makes perfect sense.
Where many run into an issue is wanting a diesel 3/4 ton and a mid size 5er and end up like me over GVWR. I am not in panic mode, but looking for a new or newer Ram 3500 DRW.

I know that newer gas 3/4 and One Ton's are being rated to as much as 15K, personally I would never want to tow that much with a gas TV. I also don't want to tow a 20K 5er even with a diesel DRW.

[itat]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

I would agree, not looking at a mid or larger 5er, TT in the 6K to 10K range, a gas 3/4 ton makes perfect sense.
Where many run into an issue is wanting a diesel 3/4 ton and a mid size 5er and end up like me over GVWR. I am not in panic mode, but looking for a new or newer Ram 3500 DRW.

I know that newer gas 3/4 and One Ton's are being rated to as much as 15K, personally I would never want to tow that much with a gas TV. I also don't want to tow a 20K 5er even with a diesel DRW.

Totally agree.

I’m looking at moving from our TT to a 5er and I’m considering models with a GVWR of not much over 11,000# to tow with my 2016 F-250 gasser.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

I will start with this
We are currently looking at updating our TV, we currently tow a 2005 Keystone Copper Canyon 293FWSLS (GVW 12,500#) with a 2001 Ram 2500 CTD. Yep over the pathetic 8,800# GVWR, but tows great and handles well, and under axle and tire ratings.
So reason for updating is two, First, it is a 5 speed manual and while DW can drive a manual, she doesn't like the power of the CTD, so I am the sole tow driver. Second, is that while the unit tows very well being as far over GVWR as we are keeps eating at me.

So currently we are looking at a new or newer Ram CTD auto DRW.

Why DRW you ask? Well based on my research and that of others the difference between a 250/2500 and a 350/3500 other than the larger GVWR number on the VIN is minuscule. You can likely get the same springs and tires by simply adding a Camper or Max tow package to a 250/2500.

I feel if we were to get a new or newer 3500 SRW it would be a lateral move.

In addition I would be a hypocrite as I convinced our DD to get a used Ram 3500 DRW to tow her four horse GN trailer.

I do believe that anyone looking to step up from a 150/1500 to a 250/2500 should just go straight to the 350/3500 SRW, that way unless towing very heavy they will avoid the issue we currently have.

Found it!!
2016 Ram Laramie CTD, Aisin, 3.73's 14,000# GVWR!

[Javi]

Welcome to the dually club. Nice Bullwinkle truck...

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Javi

Welcome to the dually club. Nice Bullwinkle truck...

Thanks, haven't towed or driven with the antlers up yet.

Next tow will be about the first of March. I have moved over the tool box and installed the picture frame adapter for our Reese hitch. It is a sweet driving truck, and DW likes driving also.