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Old 10-25-2018, 09:35 AM   #41
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LOL. That pic of the 27RESWE looks pretty silly to me. And I'm sure that Keystone may have a good reason for it needing to be where it is on that model. I saw some like this when I was looking at options to buy, and some (such as the one I purchased) that were much more concealed. Just a diff in floorplans available and personal choice in the end?...

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Old 10-25-2018, 09:56 AM   #42
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Like like exposed toilet plumbing because I can get to it and fix a leak or the valve. I have done both. I guess if did not like seeing any I would have not purchased the unit. Why is that one run that way, ask a service manager maybe they know, maybe not. Likely to save a buck.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:27 AM   #43
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I owned a LANCE trailer prior to my Keystone Laredo. The Lance had exposed water line to the toilet too, BUT the had designed it with the white or opaque water line, which made it less obvious. On the Laredo I ended up cutting the 24" section and inserting a shut-off valve so that I could turn off the water to clean the toilet bowl without the water running or having to run outside to turn off ALL water.

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Old 10-25-2018, 10:42 AM   #44
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A new member (longtime TT owner by the way) puts up a post about an irritation. Some responses commiserated and suggested modifications while others grabbed the baseball bat with nails. Had I received some of those aggressive responses when I joined up I'd have run for the hills and found a more receptive group. I get it, an exposed supply line is a minor irritation and we all know how TT's are slammed out at the factory and don't we all complain about it at one point or another? I've read many posts about "Where's the switch"? or "I'm confused on grey and black water valves" that seem like they could easily be self diagnosed, but the responses are always helpful. Let's keep this forum fun and informative. You've all been very helpful with my questions and I'm thankful for the overall tone of 99% of posts. Streepping off the soapbox now.



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I agree with what Number 4 has said. If I were new to this forum and had posted what the OP did I would have had to have a very thick skin to not be offended. Maybe at first glance his complaint seemed a bit petty but given the picture he posted later I feel he has a valid concern. For what we pay for new RVs I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a certain level of quality. NONE of us would have accepted that in a $250,000 new stick-built home! Granted, he may have been better served to voice his complaint to the dealer. But he didn't need the snide comments made by some here. Like#4, I'll go away now.


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Old 10-25-2018, 03:49 PM   #45
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Thanks for all the great responses, I opted to illustrate my point to make it a little clearer, I'm not asking for perfection, just maybe asking for something that looks like it does on other manufacturers product at the same price point. Not too much to ask I think ...

The more times I look at this the more I say what were they thinking,, makes it look like water to the ****ter was after thought
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:02 PM   #46
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The more times I look at this the more I say what were they thinking,, makes it look like water to the ****ter was after thought
Totally Agree! Would love to know why they couldn't have simply pulled that bad boy up through the wall directly behind the toilet.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:12 PM   #47
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Totally Agree! Would love to know why they couldn't have simply pulled that bad boy up through the wall directly behind the toilet.
I think Aaron pokes it up through the floor and Jacob attaches it to the toilet where ever it might be.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:31 PM   #48
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I think Aaron pokes it up through the floor and Jacob attaches it to the toilet where ever it might be.

Joe, I think you are 100% correct. From my experience, I would suspect that the toilet location is set, HOW the water line gets there is more or less just left to whoever is doing it. I figure if you took 5-6 units you would see different ways of getting that water line to the toilet. IMO not a good way to turn out a consistent product.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:36 PM   #49
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OK. I couldn't help myself and had to look up some dealer pics of the '18 27RESWE. It's not the pipe in that pic... It's the toilet! It's installed too far to the left.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:40 PM   #50
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OK, for those that have made a Keystone factory tour; if I order my next trailer can I just "ride" down the line on the trailer and oversee/direct the construction? Maybe that would be a way for us to assure, to some degree, that there was some consistency and attention paid to the construction???
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:10 PM   #51
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So I may need to stand corrected a little here... There are a ton of these where the toilet is placed just as LOMBANA's pic shows, with plenty of pex to share, LOL. Others (below) have it dead center to the corner, which looks like where the designer may have wanted it when they mapped out the plumbing?...

OK, I'll drop it now

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Old 10-25-2018, 05:21 PM   #52
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It would be easy to run the PEX nicer but it would take a few more minutes and a few elbows to route it better. They just run it in the shortest path possible and as quick as they can.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:24 PM   #53
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If you've ever replaced a toilet, and I'm sure many have, the toilet orientation vs. the incoming stiff pex is critical unless you want to do a lot of needless "plumbing". The pic of the OPs situation looks like the pex was routed for a "straight shot" at the connection at the back of the toilet. Most efficient, prettiest, shortest? Who knows. The water lines are there. Do you like them? Do you want something different? Does a more expensive trailer give you a better "look" than what you are seeing? Go buy THAT trailer...to me.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:47 PM   #54
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My toilet leaked where the base and the bowl bolt together. Brand new 70k Fuzion.
I found out 2 of the 4 bolts were broken or over stressed when dometic assembled the toilet. After taking it apart.....I find out the bolts are not available from dometic.....nice feature. Off to hardware store for some bolts ....not exactly the same but I made it work.
And the hits keep coming.... recall on the heater.....leaking gearboxes on all 3 slides....
Yes it is a 2018. I just make the repairs and go on down the road. I expect these things so I just except it. After all, pulling a rv down Americas highways is going to create problems. Wood, and aluminium held together with screws is going to present problems.
We love the lifestyle and don't regret it. So much can be said for having your bed, bathroom and food. The best part is the people we meet !!
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:58 PM   #55
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My toilet leaked where the base and the bowl bolt together. Brand new 70k Fuzion.
I found out 2 of the 4 bolts were broken or over stressed when dometic assembled the toilet. After taking it apart.....I find out the bolts are not available from dometic.....nice feature. Off to hardware store for some bolts ....not exactly the same but I made it work.
And the hits keep coming.... recall on the heater.....leaking gearboxes on all 3 slides....
Yes it is a 2018. I just make the repairs and go on down the road. I expect these things so I just except it. After all, pulling a rv down Americas highways is going to create problems. Wood, and aluminium held together with screws is going to present problems.
We love the lifestyle and don't regret it. So much can be said for having your bed, bathroom and food. The best part is the people we meet !!
My Thetford did the same thing at the same place. And as you say, the hits just keep on coming. What do you do? Just as you said, take care of it and go on down the road. I REALLY like your attitude! I think it is crucial for folks to be able to enjoy their trailer and not get sideways over every little thing that comes up....because they will; as you said, the hits just keep on coming.
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:30 PM   #56
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My dog got rid of my exposed plumbing real fast. Let me know if you want to borrow him for an hour. Best part is he disposes the water lines outside.
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