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Old 08-25-2018, 06:25 AM   #101
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:33 AM   #102
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Not really full of it. Just making an observation. I told meaz I was just messing with him. I've actually not come into Flagstaff from Scottsdale per se, but I've gone there from Sedona many times, which may or may not be the direction he goes in. I've also gone into/out of Flagstaff from Winslow/Holbrook, Kingman, Tuba City (89) and hwy. 180 to the Grand Canyon....most anyway and everyway to get in or out. Is there a hump there? Yep. Is it gargantuan? No. And I probably need to see the ecoboost pulling 9k+ up a 7% grade for miles at 64mph doing 1800 rpm with my own eyes. I've not seen it in any other test.
Then you also have never driven a gas turbo?
We had a PT Cruiser Rag Top with a 2.4 Turbo, and we suprised a lot of muscle cars off the line! Turbo gas acts a lot like a turbo diesel, just pays for it in fuel economy.
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:47 AM   #103
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Listen, until you tow with an 8000# dry "Real Steel" dually with 400 hp and 800 ft/lbs with a 4700 payload capacity, that can pull a 21500 fiver.....I don't think YOU get it.


I think most everyone's point here is, YES, you CAN pull what you're pulling with that truck. But it's marginal and likely short lived in comparison to the 2500 and up diesel trucks. I know that's a sporty little truck, as I've ridden in one. It just appears you would be better served with a HD truck. If you had both trucks available and pulled with both of them you would understand what I mean. I moved up to this 6.7 from a dinosaur 7.3 and the difference was astounding. Try one, You'll understand
8000 lb dually? Wow, my ram 2500 mega cab cummins is around 8200 lbs.
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Old 08-25-2018, 07:36 AM   #104
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8000 lb dually? Wow, my ram 2500 mega cab cummins is around 8200 lbs.
My F350 dually XL with the 6.7 is about 7938 according to the sticker... payload is 6062

Now in reality it's a bit heavier as I drive it... and loaded to travel it'll top 9K before I drop the 2800 or so from the pin on it.. and let's not mention the 700 / 800 pounds of wood behind the hitch..

Try that with that 'boost...
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Old 08-25-2018, 07:45 AM   #105
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Then you also have never driven a gas turbo?
We had a PT Cruiser Rag Top with a 2.4 Turbo, and we suprised a lot of muscle cars off the line! Turbo gas acts a lot like a turbo diesel, just pays for it in fuel economy.
I've owned 2.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:27 AM   #106
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8000 lb dually? Wow, my ram 2500 mega cab cummins is around 8200 lbs.
Weighed it last month. With me and the toolbox it's 8880 lbs. So 8000 lbs is an off the cuff figure. I'm about 220 of those lbs.
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Old 08-25-2018, 01:35 PM   #107
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Sooooooo happy I found this thread!!! Needed something to fill my afternoon with NASCAR taking the weekend off. I may just get my bug light out and a six pack with this thread opened up on my big screen smart tv and be set all weekend!
Loving life towing my 6500 (dry) Laredo 291tg with my 2016 Silverado 5.3 rated for 9600 with my golf cart in the back (in a ramp system of my own design) and WD hitch getting 13.5 mpg hiway. LOL!
Ok, as someone earlier suggested, Iím going to get my camper, load it up, and head out to the lake for a week. C-ya!

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Old 08-25-2018, 05:26 PM   #108
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So glad to do whatever small thing we can to keep you entertained. Have fun at the lake and don't drink too much beer.




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Old 08-25-2018, 05:39 PM   #109
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:54 PM   #110
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:00 PM   #111
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Sooooooo happy I found this thread!!! Needed something to fill my afternoon with NASCAR taking the weekend off. I may just get my bug light out and a six pack with this thread opened up on my big screen smart tv and be set all weekend!
Loving life towing my 6500 (dry) Laredo 291tg with my 2016 Silverado 5.3 rated for 9600 with my golf cart in the back (in a ramp system of my own design) and WD hitch getting 13.5 mpg hiway. LOL!
Ok, as someone earlier suggested, I’m going to get my camper, load it up, and head out to the lake for a week. C-ya!

There are ONLY 2 types of ships in the Navy! Submarines and targets!
I call BS on 13.5 mpg with that config. My trailer weighs 200 lbs dry less than that and I DON'T carry a golf cart and don't get close to that. That smells like a super fish tale-you also probably catch a 25 lb bass every week, right?

You are also WAY over payload with a golf cart in the back. I am close without one.
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:19 PM   #112
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Sooooooo happy I found this thread!!! Needed something to fill my afternoon with NASCAR taking the weekend off. I may just get my bug light out and a six pack with this thread opened up on my big screen smart tv and be set all weekend!
Loving life towing my 6500 (dry) Laredo 291tg with my 2016 Silverado 5.3 rated for 9600 with my golf cart in the back (in a ramp system of my own design) and WD hitch getting 13.5 mpg hiway. LOL!
Ok, as someone earlier suggested, Iím going to get my camper, load it up, and head out to the lake for a week. C-ya!

There are ONLY 2 types of ships in the Navy! Submarines and targets!
Since I'm feeling my normal picky self; you scaled that yet? Remember "towing" ratings for a pickup mean nothing.
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:27 PM   #113
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Sooooooo happy I found this thread!!! Needed something to fill my afternoon with NASCAR taking the weekend off. I may just get my bug light out and a six pack with this thread opened up on my big screen smart tv and be set all weekend!
Loving life towing my 6500 (dry) Laredo 291tg with my 2016 Silverado 5.3 rated for 9600 with my golf cart in the back (in a ramp system of my own design) and WD hitch getting 13.5 mpg hiway. LOL!
Ok, as someone earlier suggested, Iím going to get my camper, load it up, and head out to the lake for a week. C-ya!

There are ONLY 2 types of ships in the Navy! Submarines and targets!
Had to quote this or it would have been surreal;

Towing an 8200 lb. trailer with a 5.3L Silverado with a golf cart in the back...and getting 13.5 mpg. Maybe this OP should read some weight specs off of some chart or do some manual mileage calculations??
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:28 PM   #114
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Since I'm feeling my normal picky self; you scaled that yet? Remember "towing" ratings for a pickup mean nothing.
Of course he hasn't. There is no situation in the world where a 1/2 ton can tow a 6500 dry trailer AND carry a golf cart in the bed and not be massively overweight, even with some of Ford's heavy packages with 2100 lbs payloads.

Golf cart weights:
"They are generally around 4 feet (1.2 m) wide ◊ 8 feet (2.4 m) long ◊ 6 feet (1.8 m) high and weigh 900 pounds (410 kg) to 1,000 pounds (450 kg). Most are powered by 4-stroke engines. The price of a golf cart can range anywhere from under US$1,000 to well over US$20,000 per cart, depending on several factors."
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:31 PM   #115
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Had to quote this or it would have been surreal;

Towing an 8200 lb. trailer with a 5.3L Silverado with a golf cart in the back...and getting 13.5 mpg. Maybe this OP should read some weight specs off of some chart or do some manual mileage calculations??
Yeah, that is laughable... or the OP badly failed math class and is multiplying when they should be dividing.
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:58 PM   #116
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IMO when you see a chain, tug it!


I like that!!!
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:55 AM   #117
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Unless you really need a Diesel truck and you are dedicated to Ram or Chevy or Ford I will put my Platinum Tundra up against all of them.
The big three Ford, Chevy and Ram got together with the government to set up a towing standards. The result was th J2807 Towing Standard.
ďThe maximum-claimed towing capacity of most pickup trucks is bull****. ... The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) wants to change that, with a standard test for measuring truck towing capacity called "J2807." The standard was written 2008, revised in 2010, and adopted by Toyota in 2013.Ē Toyota was the First to comply with the J2807 Standard. None of the big three were able to comply with the standards until 2016. My truck also has a flex fuel v8. GAS is normally cheaper than diesel. With flex fuel you can get gas anyware. Just my plug for Toyota.
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:06 AM   #118
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I remember P-3 Ops fondly. You guys were like a rabid dog that you could not shake off!

Once you finally found us. After we broached, turned our running lights on, and guided you in by periscope! LOL!

Peace, my lefty brother!
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:20 AM   #119
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Chuck, you are undoubtably a man of wisdom. And one that can read as well as comprehend what is read. Danny also, albeit to a lesser degree.

Everyone else, consider your chain jerked! Did you seriously not see the Lol! At the end of what I CLAIM to tow with my post? LOL!

Just having a little fun with all the “my stuff is better than your stuff” posters.

The only serious thing I posted is how I’m going to the lake this weekend. And yes, there will be beer. Heck, I might even go full Monty and put bait on the hook this time!

Keep on camping my bretheren of the campground. And tow safe until you get there.
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:44 AM   #120
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Somehow I just knew that post was made tongue in cheek.....kinda like the guy with the hot Toyota.
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