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Old 07-22-2018, 04:13 PM   #1
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Which Travel Trailer to choose?

Hey guys and gals,

My wife and I have been looking for a little over a year now for our first travel trailer. We have a towing capacity of 7200lbs with our jeep trailhawk.

I think we have it narrowed down between three trailers. But first let us list or wants, preferences and needs:

Wrap around dinet
Bunks
Outdoor kitchen
Bathtub (for my son who turns two next month)

The more we can get of the above the better. And we have other nit picky things that I won't bother to list here.

We are still learning. A lot. Learned something about flush systems yesterday that seems like a big deal. But without further ado, here is what we think we are looking for. Of course we are open to this groups wisdom and suggestions as you guys have hands on experience:

Jayco Jayfeather 25BH

Keystone Bullet 243BHS

Shadow Cruiser 240BHS (saw that it has a similar weight, build, layout to the above two but haven't looked at one yet).

Discuss...
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:20 PM   #2
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That towing capacity didn't seem right to me, just looked on line and I see a 4,500# towing capacity which seems more reasonable for that vehicle.

Standard towing capacity shows 2000 pounds, with an annotated 4500 pound capacity, couldn't find what the annotation was.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:32 PM   #3
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max tow on the trailhawk is 7200lbs

https://www.jeep.com/grand-cherokee/capability.html
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:35 PM   #4
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What is your payload capacity? (Yellow sticker on the door frame- open the door and let us know what it says).
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:40 PM   #5
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max tow on the trailhawk is 7200lbs

https://www.jeep.com/grand-cherokee/capability.html
You Jeep has to be properly equipped for that rating. It is not all of them.
UP TO 7,200 POUNDS OF TOWING CAPABILITY

Grand Cherokee has a maximum towing capacity3of up to 7,200 pounds when properly equipped. Trailer Sway Control9*(TSC) reduces trailer sway and improves handling in adverse towing conditions. TSC applies brake pressure on alternating wheels and may adjust engine throttle to help eliminate sway and maintain vehicle and trailer system stability.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:44 PM   #6
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Having dealt with all three you listed. I would eliminate the Jayco and the shadow cruiser.

Without going into too much detail, both of those trailers come from the factory with a myriad of issues and only a detailed tech doing a proper PDI would catch all the things wrong.

Not saying the bullet doesnít have issues straight out the gate, I havenít PDIíd one, I have done LOTS of the others.
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:54 PM   #7
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Not to get sidetracked with the TV since you've already narrowed down the trailer selection, but that is kinda what we do. There are many variations of the Trailhawk and some can tow no more than 2000 lbs. I am assuming yours has at least the 5.7L V8??

If you have a MAX tow rating of 7200 lbs. the 243bhs comes in at 6500 gvw. Which brings us to the tongue weight of around 800-850 lbs., which brings up the previous question; what is the payload of your vehicle? It will be on the little sticker inside the driver door and is more important than the maximum towing capacity that only applies if properly equipped.

This portion of the conversation happens because there is a lot of experience on here and many of us, me included, have tried towing with a smaller SUV (mid size) like the Grand Cherokee. I've owned 2 (GCs) and rented one for about 10 days in March. They aren't really tow vehicles and I'm sure others here can provide their insight. That really needs to be sorted out before buying the trailer.

As far as selecting the "right" trailer, that is purely a subjective thing. You and your wife know what you like and don't like. The #1 thing is to get the floorplan that will work for you in a trailer that you can tow. After that you need to look at build and quality. The Jayfeather's are light weight and built that way... and it showed in every one I looked at. Lots of Bullet owners on here so hopefully they will chime in. I know nothing about a Shadow Cruiser. You said "discuss"....so it's started Look at that payload on the door.
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:41 PM   #8
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We actually bought this vehicle for our family with towing a trailer in mind and our friend who works for Jeep sold it to us. I just double checked just in case. Here is a pic:

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so that is where we are at for towing.

Also, if anyone here has any experience with any other models that they can recommend we are all ears.

We plan on taking friends with kids with us so sleeping up to 7 is a must.

Thanks for all the responses for far.
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:49 PM   #9
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So we def settled on what features we want hence the models we selected so far. I guess we are looking for all the little things like which ones are higher quality. Which ones have the system that flushes out the tank from the outside, power levelers, ect.
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:57 PM   #10
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Which Travel Trailer to choose?

Black tank rinser is an easy to install add-on if everything else is what you want. Not many light-weight trailers come with electric stabilizer jacks, and an electric tongue jack is another easy DIY upgrade. Good luck in your search and feel free to ask more questions. Buying an RV can be a daunting task, we spent 3 years looking until we decided on the one we have now.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:18 PM   #11
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It sounds like this will be your first trailer? If that's so I would be looking for a used trailer where you don't invest much into, something like an Outback 21rs. You could get one in the range of 2009-2012 for about $8000. Gvwr on these is around 5,500 lbs. There are other similar trailers.

I'd plan on keeping it for one full season to gain experience. By the next season you would have a much better understanding of what you want and have gained valuable experience towing.
Also on another note, it seems to me your towing expectations are a little high. Imho, I wouldn't be planning on towing something at my max capacity. You always want to give yourself some wiggle room. When you start loading everything you want to bring you'll find it's a lot more than you thought and you'll end up over.
Good Luck whatever you decide.
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We actually bought this vehicle for our family with towing a trailer in mind and our friend who works for Jeep sold it to us. I just double checked just in case. Here is a pic:

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so that is where we are at for towing.

Also, if anyone here has any experience with any other models that they can recommend we are all ears.

We plan on taking friends with kids with us so sleeping up to 7 is a must.

Thanks for all the responses for far.

Thanks for the pic. Those numbers are all very important numbers but they lack the payload/CCC number. That may be on a separate sticker...maybe with a yellow strip on it?? It is important.

Also, sleeping up to 7?? How many do you plan on having in the TV? It will not have the capacity for that many and the trailer weight.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:52 PM   #13
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Without seeing the yellow payload sticker, I did see the tires on the Fed STD Sticker shows tires inflated to 33 psi, those likely are not for carrying a TT on a hitch, speaking of hitches what does that say, they all have information printed on them. And or in the manual for the vehicle. Normally you see tires able to air up to 65psi and better to 80 psi to handle the extra weight.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:15 PM   #14
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You can totally put 7 in that configuration of TT. Each bunk can sleep 2 kids and 2 on the table/bed + 2 adults in the main bed = 8

As far as getting a new TT for your 1st TT, go for it! We did and haven't looked back!

But please don't get a TT that is close to the max weight for your vehicle - you want to have towing power to keep all those kids safe!
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"You can totally put 7 in that configuration of TT. Each bunk can sleep 2 kids and 2 on the table/bed + 2 adults in the main bed = 8"
OR, Kids under 12 in tent #1 Kids over 12 in tent #2 Extra adults at the local Econo Lodge. Me and the DW will see you all at breakfast in the morning
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:42 PM   #16
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My apologies, I was looking at the Cherokee Trailhawk numbers, not the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk numbers.
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Old 07-29-2018, 07:24 AM   #17
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You've been given lots of good advice. I am a strong believer in buying used for
your first TT. I've owned 2 popups, 3 TT all used and even the "new" 5th wheel
trailer we have now is a 6 month old bank repo.

If you are buying new because you think the factory or dealer will fix everything
good luck with that.

In any case I hope you find the correct TT for you and your family to injoy.
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Buying your first trailer will give you a lot of important information on what is really important to you. We started with a truck camper. Taking a shower while sitting on the commode, the world's most uncomfortable dinette and condensation drip from the metal vent in the bed area convinced us that it was NOT the right camper. Went from there to a 22 ft Sunnybrook and it was a dream in comparison BUT no counter space in the kitchen and no place to store food. The bed was basically in the cabin so if I got up at 5:30AM (normal) and my wife wanted to sleep, I couldn't watch TV; only a curtain separating us. Next got a 5th wheel toy hauler. NO NO NO storage so everything went on top one of the two drop down bunks. No counter space. Everything was cramped. Now we have a 27' Cougar and the rear kitchen is full of storage and very convenient, the booth dinette is nice and we have a Lazyboy love seat; really the perfect set up for us. Took a number of campers to figure this out. The shower is actually a tub and cramped but put an articulating show curtain rail on so it ain't bad now. Also added a 15K BTU A/C and I think we have pretty much found our camper. If I bought a new camper (unlikely), I would know EXACTLY what to look for.
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We raised our kids in a pop up. But had been looking for a TT for a few years that would meet our needs. We discovered the Keystone Passport Ultra-light Grand Touring 2400 BHS and fell in love with it. It has everything you mentioned. We bought it new in March and have been very happy! We are close to retiring but wanted the double bunks for grandkids. The bottom bunk also works wonderful as a bed for another adult without having to put the table down. A lot of storage space, too! Insist on the Teddy Bear mattresses. Very soft and comfy. We may need to replace the queen mattress, however.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:39 AM   #20
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We have a 2017 Bullet 243BHS. We love ours and can sleep 4 adults and 4 kids without a problem. We too had about the same requirements as you do with the dinette, outdoor kitchen and we had to have a door that closed on the bedroom. We settled on the Mallard 245 bunkhouse or the bullet 243. What it came down to for us was the option for two tvís inside and the outside grill came with the bullet.
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