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Old 01-10-2018, 08:03 PM   #1
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Upgraded Ram 2500 to a 3500

Took about 2 hours, rotated the tires while at it. I think it now has the capacity of a drw.


In all seriousness now for someone with a coil sprung ram 2500 this kit was very easy to install, not a single hole to drill or cut. Truck didn't need them, but it'll save a few minutes on every hook up, or set up due to the sag and using a Anderson Hitch.

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Old 01-11-2018, 03:34 AM   #2
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They will help keep your headlights aimed in the right direction too! Main reason I use mine.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:56 AM   #3
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You forgot the disclaimer! These WILL NOT increase the payload on any vehicle, they are only to "assist" in leveling the load!!!
Just so a newbie doesn't say "well kfxgreenie said it turned his into DRW".
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:04 AM   #4
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You forgot the disclaimer! These WILL NOT increase the payload on any vehicle, they are only to "assist" in leveling the load!!!
Just so a newbie doesn't say "well kfxgreenie said it turned his into DRW".

Yup!! The federal sticker still rules.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:16 AM   #5
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I have bags coming for my 1500. They will turn it into nothing but a 1500 with bags !

Did you set up the air as a single valve or dual valves ?

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Old 01-11-2018, 08:37 AM   #6
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If I ever get tired of my Timbren SES, then this is the route I will go. But for now, I'll save the cash for upgrades to the trailer.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:23 AM   #7
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Directly from the "horses mouth" (posted on the website in the PO's link):
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:33 AM   #8
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"In all seriousness now" If it wasn't obvious especially saying I made my 2500 a DRW with Bags it was SARCASM.

No aftermarket manufacture is going to open themselves up to a lawsuit by saying go over the GVWR that is common sense. It puts a smirk on my face seeing these responses.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:42 AM   #9
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Did you set up the air as a single valve or dual valves ?

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Went with the single valve for simplicity. It is also in a factory hole that sits just beside the factory rear tie down loop, it is kind of protected that way from stuff in the bed and is not sitting out in the recess area of the bumper. Also no holes drilled in the event I take them off. Timber Grove prefers this as well in case of a failure both sides deflate evenly, or so they told me.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:09 AM   #10
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Went with the single valve for simplicity. It is also in a factory hole that sits just beside the factory rear tie down loop, it is kind of protected that way from stuff in the bed and is not sitting out in the recess area of the bumper. Also no holes drilled in the event I take them off. Timber Grove prefers this as well in case of a failure both sides deflate evenly, or so they told me.

I never thought of that "both sides deflate evenly."

I'll have to do some thinnin about that Baba Looey.


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Old 01-11-2018, 10:34 AM   #11
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"In all seriousness now" If it wasn't obvious especially saying I made my 2500 a DRW with Bags it was SARCASM.

No aftermarket manufacture is going to open themselves up to a lawsuit by saying go over the GVWR that is common sense. It puts a smirk on my face seeing these responses.
We have people join the forum with Rangers and Colorado trucks wanting to buy a Cougar fifth wheel, we have people towing 41' fifth wheels with 3/4 ton trucks, we have people asking if a "dually kit" will help their overload status, we have members who install air bags, so, in their words, "I can tow without worrying about payload any more", we have people who ask, "Can my 1500 tow XXX?" We have members who don't know which end of a screwdriver gets hot and are confused about which size wrench to use to tighten their rivets, so what some of us take for granted as "sarcasm" can (and often does) become a basis for decisionmaking for someone else.

So, for those 11 people and the "inexperienced" who believe what they read and what their RV salesman told them, "No, Alice, you can't take it down the rabbithole"......
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I have mine set up with single valve also, couldn't really think of any situation where I would have to level the truck.
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We have people join the forum with Rangers and Colorado trucks wanting to buy a Cougar fifth wheel, we have people towing 41' fifth wheels with 3/4 ton trucks, we have people asking if a "dually kit" will help their overload status, we have members who install air bags, so, in their words, "I can tow without worrying about payload any more", we have people who ask, "Can my 1500 tow XXX?" We have members who don't know which end of a screwdriver gets hot and are confused about which size wrench to use to tighten their rivets, so what some of us take for granted as "sarcasm" can (and often does) become a basis for decisionmaking for someone else.

So, for those 11 people and the "inexperienced" who believe what they read and what their RV salesman told them, "No, Alice, you can't take it down the rabbithole"......
That's funny stuff right there but unfortunately true!
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #14
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We have members who don't know which end of a screwdriver gets hot and are confused about which size wrench to use to tighten their rivets, so what some of us take for granted as "sarcasm" can (and often does) become a basis for decisionmaking for someone else.

Thanks John, I am on a generator forum where I can use that reasoning !

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Thanks John, I am on a generator forum where I can use that reasoning ! .
I had a member back about 4 years ago send me a PM asking for advice. He didn't want to ask in the open forum because he didn't want members to think he was "inexperienced", so he wanted me to give him advice privately. His question: How do I set up my multimeter (VOM) to give me water pump pressure so I can compare my pump output with my city water input.....

I won't give any names or even dates, and I will say that member isn't actively posting on the forum any more, but does occasionally sign on and send a "hello PM" .... Great guy, avid RV'er, but his knowledge of "things electrical" and "things mechanical" just never grew with the rest of his life experiences.

I think we all should consider that many who read our words on this forum may not understand the meaning behind what we post and can't always "crawl inside our head" to know when we're joking and when we're being serious. I'm sure that all of us would never want to cause someone to injure their family because of some humor we try to inject into a forum post.

And with that, since most are probably asleep by now, I'll crawl down from my soap box (again),,,,,
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Thanks John. I personally think it's a good thing to bring this topic up from time to time. Sometimes it's easy to forget there are folks brand new to this "hobby" and most of the things it requires - some of our posts probably sound like gobbledy goop. I've been outspoken about that at times as well simply due to the types of examples you've used.
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With my on board air, I fill both but have two separate dump valves.
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I had a member back about 4 years ago send me a PM asking for advice. He didn't want to ask in the open forum because he didn't want members to think he was "inexperienced", so he wanted me to give him advice privately. His question: How do I set up my multimeter (VOM) to give me water pump pressure so I can compare my pump output with my city water input.....

This is a hoax...right? You can't be serious.
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I have a BIL (with a PhD) that's owned a rv now for about 3 years, travels about a 1000 miles a year, but knows absolutely EVERYTHING about rving, i.e. after buying 2 sets of P235×15" tires for a 35' fifth wheel & blowing them in about 50 miles wonders why, or can't run his ac from a 20 amp circuit using a 100' 16 gauge extension cord & wonders why, it said right the package indoor/outdoor rv cord, or tells me I'm going to burn up my Alllison automatic transmission towing my 16.5k 5er, you can only tow one that heavy with a standard transmission. So YES he'd turn his 2500 into 3500 with air bags.
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This is a hoax...right? You can't be serious.
As serious as a heart attack. He "reasoned" that as the amperage increased in the pump, he could somehow measure the increased amperage to determine how much water pressure was being produced. He wanted me to explain how to connect the shunt because his meter leads kept getting hot when he tried it without a shunt. The second question was where the chart that showed amp draw and corresponding water pressure was located......
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