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Old 08-15-2017, 06:47 PM   #41
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Walmart has great prices and balance the tires. Recommend that you supervise the install


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Old 08-18-2017, 05:11 PM   #42
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So my question to the group is this: I will soon be upgrading my trailer kings. Gonna drop the 14s and go to a 15" Wheel. I discovered that Discount Tire has Carlisle Radial HDs in a LR E rated for 2840 lbs each at $96/tire. If I go with a LR D tire they will also match Wal-mart's price for the LR D tires at $61/tire at a capacity of like 2250 lbs each. My rig has a GVWR of 7750 lbs.

Going with 4 LR E tires gives me a carrying capacity of 11,360 lbs, vs 9,000 for the LR D tires. We often talk about extra carrying capacity, but will that LR E tire be so much extra, and so stiff (vs the actual trailer weight) that I will bounce my trailer to death from being underloaded for the tires? I am thinking the LR D tires will suffice, but wanted to get opinions on experienced folks.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:57 PM   #43
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So my question to the group is this: I will soon be upgrading my trailer kings. Gonna drop the 14s and go to a 15" Wheel. I discovered that Discount Tire has Carlisle Radial HDs in a LR E rated for 2840 lbs each at $96/tire. If I go with a LR D tire they will also match Wal-mart's price for the LR D tires at $61/tire at a capacity of like 2250 lbs each. My rig has a GVWR of 7750 lbs.

Going with 4 LR E tires gives me a carrying capacity of 11,360 lbs, vs 9,000 for the LR D tires. We often talk about extra carrying capacity, but will that LR E tire be so much extra, and so stiff (vs the actual trailer weight) that I will bounce my trailer to death from being underloaded for the tires? I am thinking the LR D tires will suffice, but wanted to get opinions on experienced folks.

My Montana HC came with Rainier LR E tires, but on wheels rated for 110 psi. The only thing I noticed going from 80 psi to 110 psi with a stronger sidewall is the 5er held the road better and found nothing bounced in the 5er, no cabinet doors opened~~ nothing negative.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:58 PM   #44
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Last time I checked the LRE tires were $77 at WalMart vs $96 at DT.

ST tires "degrade" about 10% per year in load capacity, so you may be at 11,360 when you install them but this time next year you'll be minus 1,136, and so on until your tires "age out" or "wear out"... With the LRD tires you'll also degrade 10% per year and reach your "pumpkin number" (when the tires fall below the weight of your trailer) much faster.

As for the stiffer tires causing problems? It's been my experience that with the 80 PSI LRE tires ride smoother than the previous LRD tires at 65PSI. At least there's less movement of cargo inside the trailer. There are several people who have upgraded from LRD's to LRE's on the forum that all say about the same thing: Trailer ride is smoother and it seems to pull easier with LRE tires on it.
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:22 PM   #45
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Thanks JRTJH. I am not seing any LR E Carlisles on Wal-Mart.com right now (Just the LR D tires). If they were there that would be an easy decision as I could get DT to match that.

Interesting that the LR E tires carry smoother. That doesn't surprise me on the big 5ers which weigh so much more, but is a bit surprising on lighter units. Hopefully Wal-Mart will show some LR E tires soon so I can get DT to match. Not too excited about paying them $96/tire. Tire Rack doesn't show any Carlisle HDs either.
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:30 PM   #46
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And of course not 5 minutes after I posted this, I found the LR E tires at Wal-Mart for $67 each. Wonder if Discount will match that low price...
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:41 PM   #47
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If they wont match the price ask them how much they'd charge to mount and balance them if you buy them at WM and bring them in for mounting.... Chances are it's still cheaper than the base tire price at $96 each......
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:05 PM   #48
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Yeah, the would likely charge me the same fee for mounting and balancing that I would pay if I bought them at DT to begin with (I think it is $16/tire). Their mounting/balancing fee is pretty standard regardless of application. I may have to do that.

One of the comments under the LR E tire at WalMart says ordering online is the way to go and they got some Carlisles that were only a few weeks old when they ordered them on line, vs in the store which was much more negative. DT did confirm today they would mount/balance anything I bring in.
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Old 08-18-2017, 07:43 PM   #49
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So my question to the group is this: I will soon be upgrading my trailer kings. Gonna drop the 14s and go to a 15" Wheel.
^^^^ This is what I did earlier this year. I upgraded both wheels and tires to help with load reserve capacities. My tires where 'up-sized' to 225 75 15 LRD. The biggest hiccup was acquiring tires that had relatively newer DOT dates. Discount Tire matched both Amazon and Walmart's pricing but their inventory was old. DOT was approximately 12 months old so I refused that set. My second attempt was with Amazon. Same thing: stale (albeit new) tires with a year of warehouse time. Third time wasn't a charm either as Walmart.com sent similarly dated tires.

After three merchants were unable to get a "newer" batch, I decided to try the higher LRE tire. Started with Walmart.com. They arrived at a local store for pickup. Bam! Only 12 weeks old, not 54 like the rest.

The next challenge was finding a tire center that could mount and balance trailer tires in the "Lug centric" fashion. The DT's, Pep Boy's, Wallyworld's, Firestone's, and independents in my area didn't own the lug wheel balancing adapters. I must have called 10 places. I finally found a Belle Tire store that had the adapters and paid a premium over the "other guys".

Now, my reserves are north of 50% and the wheels are properly balanced.
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Old 08-19-2017, 04:37 AM   #50
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Thanks for the info- I actually got the idea about upgrading after reading another tire thread you commented on and provided some links to. I did not realize you went with the LR E tires. We have nearly the same size trailer- the LR Es work well with yours?

I am not too worried about balacning methods; if the shop does it correctly the wheel will be fine. A hige part of good balancing is good tires that want to balance.
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Old 08-19-2017, 04:41 AM   #51
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Yeah, the would likely charge me the same fee for mounting and balancing that I would pay if I bought them at DT to begin with (I think it is $16/tire). Their mounting/balancing fee is pretty standard regardless of application. I may have to do that.

One of the comments under the LR E tire at WalMart says ordering online is the way to go and they got some Carlisles that were only a few weeks old when they ordered them on line, vs in the store which was much more negative. DT did confirm today they would mount/balance anything I bring in.
Buy them online and be done with it. Mine came into my "Neighborhood Grocery" in 2 days since it was closer than driving across town to the Super Wmart. They were somewhere around 2-3 months old, there's a post somewhere here from earlier this year with all the info. Took them to a tire shop previously chosen and had them mounted, balanced and installed for $8 apiece if I recall. Pleased with the whole operation, happy with the tires, no muss, no fuss, no dickering, in and out and on my way to do more fun things.
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Buy them online and be done with it. Mine came into my "Neighborhood Grocery" in 2 days since it was closer than driving across town to the Super Wmart. They were somewhere around 2-3 months old, there's a post somewhere here from earlier this year with all the info. Took them to a tire shop previously chosen and had them mounted, balanced and installed for $8 apiece if I recall. Pleased with the whole operation, happy with the tires, no muss, no fuss, no dickering, in and out and on my way to do more fun things.
Awesome, great to hear it. I think I am going to pull it and just order them online from Wally World. Will decide on the mounting/balancing later. Then I can put them on myself to make sure they are torqued correctly and not have to haul my rig up there.
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:47 AM   #53
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I just bought the E's at Wal-Mart and had them mounted at DT for $16 each. Also bought their road hazard package since they were new tires. DT wouldn't match Wal-Mart but would come down to $96. YMMV.

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I had purchased 5 Carlisle HD 235/80R16 through Walmart, with local pickup for $385. My local tire dealer installed them for $150. Sold the take-offs on Craigslist, which only had about 300 miles on them, within a few days of returning from our 3 week trip for $250. In the end I only paid $285 for new tires and piece of mind. They're great tires.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:53 PM   #55
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Update: I got the 15" Sendel wheels from RecStuff to go with the new Carlisles. Got the LR E from Wal Mart for $67. 4 were made in May, 1 in June, so all 5 are 3 months old or newer. Took them home and installed them this afternoon. I Should be set for a while now. Ready to roll em next weekend and try em out!
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Update on Carlisle Trail Radial HD 235x85x16 F (95 psi). Just returned from 6000 mile trip which included several less than ideal road surfaces and continual uphill and downhill in historically hot weather (@Glacier NP) and the tires performed perfectly. Checked tires several times during trip and found no pressure loss (a little gain at altitude). Camper pulled smoothly and seem to roll much better than previous Trailer Kings. If you are looking for tires, I highly recommend the HDs.
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Old 09-15-2017, 03:16 PM   #57
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Sure wish we would have changed out our OE tires, Trailer Kings. Had a blowout last week and now we're $2,000 into repairs. I never failed to check tires on every trip to and from home but after only 3 years, 7,000 miles it blew. Looking into 4 new Carlisle Tires before our next trip. I just don't trust the Trailer King tires. 2015 Cougar 333MKS
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Sure wish we would have changed out our OE tires, Trailer Kings. Had a blowout last week and now we're $2,000 into repairs. I never failed to check tires on every trip to and from home but after only 3 years, 7,000 miles it blew. Looking into 4 new Carlisle Tires before our next trip. I just don't trust the Trailer King tires. 2015 Cougar 333MKS

I didn't trust them either after a random blow out labor day, no damage luckily. Now has 4 Carlisle on it, hopefully they are as problem free as the other Carlisle tires I have ran over the years.
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Rule of thumb that you can count on: Don't Trust The Original Equipment Tires. It's thst simple.

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