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Old 07-05-2017, 03:27 PM   #61
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Typical comment from a "service Tech". Just can't be wrong. Please!!

Typical? No, just asking. As I stated, I am not trying to point a finger, but if you got offended by my question, then I am sorry. I stand by my comment that IMO you would FEEL it if you did indeed hit a pot hole. Been hauling trailers since 1989 so I speak as an RV'er not just a tech.
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:29 PM   #62
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Is there a way to adjust the jacks up on the mounting brackets?


The typical installation is to use 6 bolts on the jack and secure it to a mounting bracket that has a series of holes to set the height of the jack. Since there is an "override" on the top and bottom, if there is room, one could move them up.
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Old 07-05-2017, 04:11 PM   #63
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Is there a way to adjust the jacks up on the mounting brackets?
That's a good idea. I plan on asking the dealer. My suspicion is that there is not enough reach with the jack for stability. Otherwise, I can't see why they wouldn't have done that to begin with. I did not feel or hear any unusual sound when it occurred. There is a pot hole turning into the drive to my storage space. It is where the gravel meets the asphalt. It's a 90 degree turn so I was going slow. I'm not sure the trailer wheels tracked it, but even if it did the hole is not that deep. My theory is that the rear wheel sunk in the hole, it then abruptly came up on the lip of the asphalt, compressing the suspension upward with the frame still stationary and the foot pad naturally hitting the edge because it is immediately behind the wheel. It may never happen again and I don't plan on taking it off-road, but if this scenario is what happened, it happened on a busy city street. I'm curious as to when they started mounting the jacks this way and how many units there are with this set up.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:18 PM   #64
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New Auto Leveling System

We have moved the rear jacks up on a few units. It does change the travel, but that's easily overcome by blocks. As I previously stated, it depends on the clearance at the top of the jack.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:43 AM   #65
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My 2017 Outback 325BH came with the BAL 7.1 system. Anyone know if this is better then the 7.0 or the Ground Control 3.0 offered by Lippert ?
I noticed the 2 rear leveling jacks seem low like mentioned above. The 4 stabilizer jacks seem to be plenty high.
Anyone have any good tips on using blocks from the jacks or stabilizer pads ?
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Old 07-06-2017, 07:36 AM   #66
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Typical? No, just asking. As I stated, I am not trying to point a finger, but if you got offended by my question, then I am sorry. I stand by my comment that IMO you would FEEL it if you did indeed hit a pot hole. Been hauling trailers since 1989 so I speak as an RV'er not just a tech.
As I stated, I didn't feel it. Driving a diesel truck, an equalizer hitch and a long trailer over a bumpy corner, it would be hard hearing or feeling anything. I also have been RVing a long time. Just never with this setup.
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:54 AM   #67
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You Americans are so lucky. We never got our sliced bread until 1937.

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Old 07-07-2017, 08:30 AM   #68
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My 2017 Outback 325BH came with the BAL 7.1 system. Anyone know if this is better then the 7.0 or the Ground Control 3.0 offered by Lippert ?
I noticed the 2 rear leveling jacks seem low like mentioned above. The 4 stabilizer jacks seem to be plenty high.
Anyone have any good tips on using blocks from the jacks or stabilizer pads ?
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I like the Lynx Leveler packs. They are plenty strong and you can stack them.
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:03 PM   #69
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I have it and worked great at campground. Where I have problems is in driveway. It is somewhat uneven and slanted uphill to street. I finally put two 1" boards under 3 of the 4 jacks and got the green light. Took forever! I am really new to this whole TT camper thing and during walk through they said no more than 1, 1" board because Jackie have to extend. Broke the rules. Also tires are up off ground. Isn't that a no no?
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:21 PM   #70
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I seem to have the same problem as a few of you, I just bought a 2017 sprinter 312MLS with the 3.0 level system and I have not been super impressed with it. I have set the TT up a few times in my drive way and just spent 10 days camping at a park and it has yet to successfully auto level, it seems if the trailer is even a little off level to start with it won't auto level, but i can manually level. I went to level it today in my gravel driveway and the right front jack broke The shear pin on the work screw broke at the motor so now that jack just flops. I will be taking it back to my dealer tomorrow so they fix it
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:31 PM   #71
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SO i resolved the the issue of my BAL 7.1 auto level system, not leveling front to rear. In the bedroom closet, there is an access panel in the floor. I found three upholstered covered screws, Once I removed them I was able to grab the carpet and the panel came up. BTW this is also how you get access to Hot water tank. in this compartment I found a control box for the leveling system. the adjustment I made was the op middle screw of the control box. left to raise front right to lower.

This was for a 328RL I have heard that others have found this under the bed..

Now I like the auto level feature.
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:02 PM   #72
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Thanks for updating. I haven't had the occasion to work on a unit with BAL 7.1, but at least now I know what I'm looking for.
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Old 05-13-2018, 10:58 AM   #73
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I am also interested in any information on the new 7.1 BAL system they are putting on the outbacks We are considering a new 266RB, have had a ground control 3.0 but always gunshy of sometyhing new
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:47 AM   #74
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It works like a champ, once you have it dialed in.. Press a button and it auto deploys and levels.
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Old 05-14-2018, 07:21 AM   #75
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Thanks looking forward to giving it a try
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:10 PM   #76
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Auto level

We have it on our Cougar 277RLSWE. It works fairly well, but does not have as much travel/lift on the jacks as I would like to have. This system is definitely not built with Mountain Boondocking style camping in mind.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:57 AM   #77
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... I went to level it today in my gravel driveway and the right front jack broke The shear pin on the work screw broke at the motor so now that jack just flops...
Exact same thing happened to me as well several weeks ago. Waiting to have it replaced under warranty.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:15 AM   #78
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Our Outback 330RL came with the BAL7.1 system. We are stationary full timers so I've only used the system a couple of times.

The system works great, my issue was with the dealership we bought the trailer from...they had NO IDEA how the system worked. When I asked for the demonstration of the system they went and got their "top tech"...he didn't even know where the control panel was for the jacks. He kept trying to use the command panel inside the coach to get it to work. During my exterior walk around on the trailer I saw the panel outside on the driver side. Once I showed him the panel, he still couldn't get the system to work. In the end, I was told that the system had not been calibrated, once that was done it worked as designed.

Lesson learned...check the system operation during your PDI!
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:26 AM   #79
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Our Outback 330RL came with the BAL7.1 system. We are stationary full timers so I've only used the system a couple of times.

The system works great, my issue was with the dealership we bought the trailer from...they had NO IDEA how the system worked. When I asked for the demonstration of the system they went and got their "top tech"...he didn't even know where the control panel was for the jacks. He kept trying to use the command panel inside the coach to get it to work. During my exterior walk around on the trailer I saw the panel outside on the driver side. Once I showed him the panel, he still couldn't get the system to work. In the end, I was told that the system had not been calibrated, once that was done it worked as designed.

Lesson learned...check the system operation during your PDI!
The leveling system would not "auto level" when we got our unit home. Called the dealer, and they wanted us to bring it back, but a 12 hour drive back to Idaho was out of the question. Called a few dealers, and they were basically worthless for troubleshooting help. I ended up calling Lippert Components (they manufactured the system). Talked with a tech for 10 minutes and repaired the problem. If you have any issues with this system, I highly recommend calling Lippert directly. Super easy to deal with.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:04 AM   #80
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I am also interested in any information on the new 7.1 BAL system they are putting on the outbacks We are considering a new 266RB, have had a ground control 3.0 but always gunshy of sometyhing new


I have had the new bal 7.1 auto level on my 2018 325 bh since dec. have camped several times and taken it on 2000 mile round trip. Had to set the level at the brain the first day at home but after that works great with no problems. Buy and enjoy.
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