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Old 01-22-2017, 06:36 PM   #21
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I never really paid much attention to them, but my son pointed out that the majority of Ram owners drive around with them flipped out. So I started watching, yep, I'd say about 90% just leave the mirrors flipped for no apparent reason other than they want their truck to look like it has real mirrors like Ford and GM.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:42 PM   #22
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I guess I'm in the minority, then. The elephant ears get folded in when the 5er gets unhooked and stays that way until I hook up again.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:49 PM   #23
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Most of the ones I see are jacked up 4x4s with 6" lifts and no hitch... but them silly mirrors are pulled out.

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Old 01-22-2017, 06:59 PM   #24
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I usually don't even flip them out to tow my 21ft bay boat unless I have to get on the freeway.
I actually like them better than my Fords. Somehow I can see better down the curb side of the 5th.
But yeah they do look stupid out when not towing.
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:03 AM   #25
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I just upgraded to a DRW because we're getting a Montana, and decided to get the DRW for 1 major factor:
pin weights of the montana's, these have a heavy pin from other 5'ers we looked at and wanted a truck that had plenty of payload capacity.

another reason I went to a dually, is because of the length of the Montana's, most maxing out close to 40', the wide hips of a dually will add some stability.
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:18 PM   #26
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Wait..... I have a dodge.......you mean your not soppossed to put the mirrors out when driving to walmart?😉

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Old 01-26-2017, 04:34 AM   #27
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I had the exact truck (2016 SRW F350 etc) you describe. I was pulling a 2015 DRV Tradition. Dealer of the DRV assured me my F350 SRW was a good match for the RV. Pulled the DRV for six months and everything was just fine. Only issues were rough ride and some lurching from time to time. Started looking at the numbers one day and realized I was actually a bit over the maximum payload capacity. Didn't really want a DRW truck but started looking at the 2017 F350 equivalent truck but with the 4.10 rear axle. I drove both trucks over some very rough road unloaded (I do a lot of unloaded driving). While both were rough and stiff the 2017 DRW was a lot better than the 2016 SRW. Dealer made me such a good deal I had to change. Best towing decision I've made and a much better unloaded drive. Monday January 30th I am trading the DRV for a Montana 3811MS. My 2017 DRV will pull just about anything made so I never really have to worry again. Payload is over 6,000 lbs and total pulling capacity is over 30,000. Montana is a touch heavier than the DRV but with the DRW I'm sure I will not notice. Well worth the upgrade to the DRW if for peace of mind issues only. We are fulltimers.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:36 AM   #28
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Thank you for all the replies. It's been very helpful for me. I was able to find a CAT scale about 40 miles from where I live, so I will definitely take the fully loaded rig down there and get it weighed.

Some more details about my vehicle and the trailer. According to Ford's towing guide website, my truck's (which is a diesel) 5th wheel towing capacity is 15,700 lbs (trailer only). GCWR=23,500 lbs. The dry weight of the trailer is 12,950 lbs, with cargo weight not to exceed 3,635 lbs.

The tire and loading info sticker on the truck says combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed 3,101 lbs.

Other info on truck:
Front GAWR: 5,600 lbs
Rear GAWR: 7,000 lbs
GVWR: 11,500 lbs
5th Wheel King Pin Weight = 1,942 lbs to 3,237 lbs (15% to 25% of trailer dry weight)

It seems like with the GVWR and dry weight of trailer alone, I am exceeding GCWR of 23,500 lbs rated, vs 11,500 + 12,950 = 24,450 lbs actual.

If the above math is correct, one thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the truck is rated to tow 15,700 lbs. However, if the GCWR=23,500 and the truck GVWR=11,500, wouldn't the max towing capacity be GCWR-GVWR, or 23,500-11,500=12,000 lbs?
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:56 AM   #29
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Actually, some of the trailer weight is going to be included in your GVWR so your calculation is not 100% accurate. Based on the sticker info, your trucks actual weight is somewhere around 8,400, so that leaves you 15,100 of trailer, occupants, gear, and cargo before you exceed the GCWR...which will most likely happen. However, the combined weight of occupants and cargo of 3101 listed on your door sticker is going to be easily exceeded with a trailer that heavy. You really are in DRW territory.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:16 AM   #30
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Save the fuel and weight fees and use the cash to drive to a truck dealer..
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:17 PM   #31
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Javi, yes, I agree. Already started working on it. :-)
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:21 PM   #32
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The Ford spec of 15,700 5th wheel is with a 15% pin weight - 15700*15%= 2335 pin weight which is well within you payload. The real world a 5er that heavy going to around 23% pin weight or 15,700 * 23% = 3611 so that would be over your payload. It's not just Ford does it but GMC, Chevy and RAM all use 15%.
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