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Old 05-04-2016, 08:48 AM   #1
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Discount Tire Choices

Hi All - I will not buy tires from anywhere other than discount tire. I've been a lifelong customer starting with my first car when I was 16. 22 years later, never bought a tire elsewhere. With that said, I've got China bombs on my Laredo 5th wheel and will be replacing them next week. The question is which tire to replace them with?

I've seen good reviews of the Carlisle Trail RH and they are about $40 less per tire than the Maxxis 8008's.

Both are load range E and 10 ply. Current bombs are range D and 8 ply I believe.

Which tire should I go with? I know I'll get 10 different opinions but I am looking for real world use cases to try and make an educated decision.

Are the Maxxis tires worth $200 more for a set of 5 compared got the Carlisles? (Replacing spare too)

Thanks in advance for the opinions and recommendations.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:00 AM   #2
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Forgot to mention that the trailer spends a lot of time on dirt roads too...
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:28 AM   #3
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I have no personal experience with the tires you mention but ........
FYI, Make sure your rims are rated for 80 psi E rated tires. JM2˘, Hank
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Old 05-04-2016, 01:22 PM   #4
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I put Maxxis on our previous Cougar soon after the purchase. Did the same with the Montana. No issue yet.
My local Discount Tire doesn't keep them in stock. They had to order from their warehouse. Took 1 or 2 days.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:48 PM   #5
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I have the Maxxis on the toyhauler and Carlisles on the car hauler and enclosed utility trailer. No problems with either brand. Will probably replace the Maxxis with Maxxis when the time comes.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:49 PM   #6
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I will add a question to this.... I am also looking to go from D to E. My rims can handle the 80psi. Have people had good luck with the load range E tires at 65-70psi when the weight allows? I have a gross weight at 5420# and gvwr of 6800# so I don't really need the high pressure for the weight

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Old 05-04-2016, 04:59 PM   #7
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I will add a question to this.... I am also looking to go from D to E. My rims can handle the 80psi. Have people had good luck with the load range E tires at 65-70psi when the weight allows? I have a gross weight at 5420# and gvwr of 6800# so I don't really need the high pressure for the weight

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I always run max sidewall pressure regardless of trailer weight on all my trailer tires, which is generally recommended.
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:06 PM   #8
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There are two schools of thought on trailer tire pressure. One school suggests weighing the trailer and adjusting tire pressure per the recommended setting based on weight using pressure in the "load/inflation chart", the other suggests always maintaining ST tire pressure at the maximum pressure stated on the tire sidewall.

Maxxis doesn't address a recommended method, however Carlisle suggests: "Maintain air pressure at the maximum PSI recommended on the
tire sidewall." http://www.carlstargroup.com/cms_fil..._Practices.pdf
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:38 PM   #9
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I will add a question to this.... I am also looking to go from D to E. My rims can handle the 80psi. Have people had good luck with the load range E tires at 65-70psi when the weight allows? I have a gross weight at 5420# and gvwr of 6800# so I don't really need the high pressure for the weight

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I have been giving the same thought to my tire upgrade but started thinking about: Why go to Es when Ds at 65 psi give us 2 times the capacity of our loaded TT?. Would Es at 80 psi rattle our TT apart? Is there a tire durability or other consequence if we were to run Es at 65 psi? Do the extra plys obligate the user to run higher psi?

I am leaning toward staying with Ds at this time.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:45 PM   #10
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I have been giving the same thought to my tire upgrade but started thinking about: Why go to Es when Ds at 65 psi give us 2 times the capacity of our loaded TT?. Would Es at 80 psi rattle our TT apart? Is there a tire durability or other consequence if we were to run Es at 65 psi? Do the extra plys obligate the user to run higher psi?

I am leaning toward staying with Ds at this time.
But the flip side I think of is most of us run our truck tires below the max sidewall psi number. In addition I had seen where the HD trucks give a loaded and unloaded pressure rating.

I guess I am just looking to confirm people have not had issues, but I agree you and me have a good factor of safety on the D's due to the trailer size.

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:07 PM   #11
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I went to Discount Tires ready to buy Maxxis and the salesperson recommended the Carlisle Trail RH. He convinced me the Carlisle were just as good as the Maxxis, were less $$, and he threw in balancing and a better guarantee so I went with it. I had no problems with the Carlisle and we went over some rough roads. This was on our former trailer but I would sure go with them again. The comments and reviews so far seem to indicate the salesman was right.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:39 PM   #12
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This is year three on the Carlile tires, the year where it really counts. Will let y'all know if they make it.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:34 PM   #13
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I'm gonna order the Carlisles. 225/75 15E. Suppose I'll just get 5 and replace the spare too. It's just money...
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:58 PM   #14
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Remember that spare tire even if never has been on the road is wore out by age. Why risk it get 5 new tires. Last year I changed out my boat trailer tires, all 5. The spare was never on the road, ever. It looked like the others (side walls cracked) just with full thread.
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:00 PM   #15
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I put Maxxis on the trailer, and Michelin on the truck - I know they are pricey, but I have never had trouble with either with many trucks and two trailers.

That being said, for the spare, I just put on a Towmaster or something because it is on a regular steel wheel (the trailer has aluminum ones), and if I ever need it, it will only be temporary until I can fix the problem.

I do always replace the spare when I replace the other tires - just use a cheaper one ......
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Old 05-09-2016, 02:18 AM   #16
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Both are great tires. Personally, I've never had a problem with the Carlisle and would not spend the extra money on the Maxxis. The question you need to ask yourself isn't if you need to spend the extra money, it's what can you live with. If your personal opinion (regardless of what we say) is that the Maxxis is a better tire, you'll sleep better at night if you spend the extra cash. $200 is a small price to pay for a goods nights sleeps. If you are confident with the quality of the Carlisle, why spend the extra? I put the Carlisle Radial Trail RH on mine and never thought twice since.

As for different tire pressures, as already mentioned, Carlisle recommends max PSI. Maxxis doesn't make a recommendation that I can find, but they do provide the following inflation chart.

http://www.maxxis.com/trailer/traile...nflation-chart
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When I go to upgrade my tires, how do I tell the max pressure my steel rims will allow? Thanks.
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:42 AM   #18
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The weight carrying capacity and/or the max psi should be stamped or embossed on the back of your wheels. On our aluminum wheels, the weight rating (2830#) is embossed on the back side of the wheel spoke. If you can't find it, it may be stamped on the inside, under the tire. Might also be a sticker - recently bought a new Dexter steel wheel from Redneck Trailer that had a sticker instead of being stamped.
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When I go to upgrade my tires, how do I tell the max pressure my steel rims will allow? Thanks.
Like JSMITH said it should be stamped on the wheel. Most likely on the backside. Could be the backside of a spoke as well.
If it gives just a weight rating you will have to do a bit of research. Tires are relatively the same across all brands at the load range rating. In other words all 15 " tires of the same width and height and load rating (LR "D", LR "E", etc) will have about the same load capacity at the same inflation pressure. So, if your wheel is stamped at 2830 max weight you will have to research what tire that corresponds to.
If the weight AND pressure is stamped it will be easy.
Be careful with internet info. Some sellers of wheels and tires (eTrailer.com) will state that a wheel manufacturer's only air pressure requirement is you have to use threaded air valves secured with nuts.
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When I go to upgrade my tires, how do I tell the max pressure my steel rims will allow? Thanks.
Good info already provided, but here's an addition that I learned a few years ago from the forum. My wheels have the name of the mfg name stamped into them on the outside of the wheel (no climbing under the trailer to try to look for numbers). I then went to the mfg's website and looked up the wheel and got all the information I needed. Just a thought. I'm not that old but too old to be crawling around under the trailer like that.
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