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Old 03-02-2016, 05:26 PM   #1
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Seen a different rear rack and tire carrier

I seen and followed 2 new TTs being delivered that were of a non Keystone trailer. I hope this is not what Keystone does. They had pivoting racks mounted to the frame above the bumper which sounds good. But, as I followed they bounce or slide foreword and back with every small road bump and had the spare wheel/tire mounted to them which was vibrating even more than the rack. Looked like they are going to fail rather fast by broken welds or bent parts.
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:35 PM   #2
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Keystone uses the same mount. That is what I have on my Passport.

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Old 03-02-2016, 06:07 PM   #3
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I think you will find they are made by Lippert for mounting on Lippert frames and they are on the their website.
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:39 PM   #4
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Great, now I have something else to worry about! Lol. I never thought about that mount moving around. When I get my TT back maybe I can add a bolt or clamp to help reduce the vibrations.

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Old 03-03-2016, 11:09 AM   #5
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Those that have this rack, you might have someone follow you a few miles down a road at highway speed and see for yourself. It really does not look good. Maybe mounting a rubber strap or something to prevent all movement would work. I would remove the spare and that might stop most movement or movement that is going to make failure problems. Having what 50 lbs of wheel/tire swinging the rack cannot be good.
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:45 PM   #6
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Good idea. I hope to check mine out this weekend.
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Old 03-05-2016, 05:37 PM   #7
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I looked at the Lippert Rack and it seems well designed to me. It had two mounting locations welded to the trailer frame and was made of heavy steel. When pinned in the upright position I don't see how you would be getting the movement you noticed on the Rigs your were following..

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I would recommend for anyone that has a receiver type rack that you consider a Hitch Vice by Hitch Rider. Stops all movement in the hitch.
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Old 03-05-2016, 06:43 PM   #8
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I guess if you ever follow one and look you will see. I have not looked at the connection but, it was clearly made to travel in the up position and used in the down position by some type of pivot or pins. So, I was watching free movement as since it was not welded into place to prevent movement. Maybe a math major can explain better than me about the forces of weight going back and forth as it came to a stop and bounced back and forth several inch's? to be repeated as the trailer was traveling due to a wheel/tire and weight of the rack? Just like my pull out bumper. When it is extended, I can pull it up and down several inch's inside of the mounting brackets. If I travel with it extended I will block the movement by straps or even shims so it does not bent or break the supports as it bounces along at 60 mph over the great roads we travel. After reading about some on here finding their pull out bumper bent or broke and dragging on the road. I do not want it to happen to me.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:14 PM   #9
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It's hard to tell what kind of rack you were following but if it was mounted like the Lippert (link provided) there is no place where you would get the movement described. The Lippert mounts on top of each frame rail. It's designed to be in a tilted up or down position. There is no space which would allow for it to wobble back and fourth.

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Old 03-10-2016, 09:25 AM   #10
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That appears to be the rack. but, the ones I seen had expanded metal instead of the bars across the frame and the trailers did not have ladders. And yes they move, I did see it on both trailers. Did you grab the one in the photo and pull it up/down in that position while it had the pins in it and put it it the up position and grab it and pull it. Bet there was movement of the rack it both positions. All you need to do is follow one and watch.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:01 PM   #11
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I had one of those racks on our old grey wolf 26dbh. When it was stowed upright, it was solid and not going anywhere. But in the down position it moved a bit. And the spare tire was mounted to it, so in the down position, it didn't leave much for clearance going over speed bumps.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:19 PM   #12
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Yours must have been better. Just asking did you ever get to see the rear of your trailer as it was traveling. As I said these ones that I watched where in a continuing movement in the up right position. As the trailer bounced they moved in their mounts, only a few inch's foreword and back. One bounce of the trailer and they went fore and back several times. Maybe they will hold up to it? They were not solid by any means of thinking.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:32 PM   #13
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I never got to see it go down the road, as I was always driving the tv.

It might be that the ones you saw were too tight to put the pins in so somebody hogged out the holes a little bit, that would be all it needs to start moving.
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:39 PM   #14
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I looked at my tire rack today and I'll be replacing the release pin with a bolt. Hopefully that will solve the movement issue.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:52 AM   #15
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I think the last 2 posts might have the right answers. If the holes or pins are loose and likely are just to allow ease of pins being put it or taken out. If that part can be made tight, no movement would be able start to shake the rack.
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