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Old 07-14-2013, 01:33 PM   #1
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Fastening down a couch in a 321 RES

I have a jackknife couch in my 2013 321 RES, had two L brackets holding it to the floor but both pulled out. Tried to re-attach with longer, larger screws but they pull right out, didn't want to go too long...


Anyone know what the floors are made of and if I can safely use a longer screw (2"?)?
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:37 PM   #2
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Most of the floors in Keystone products are made of 5/8" particle/chip/strand board - not plywood. Rather than using a 2" screw, I would see if the L-brackets can be moved slightly so that you would be screwing into "fresh" wood. Try using the largest diameter possible of the same or just slightly longer length. Apply some Gorilla glue or epoxy to the threads before inserting.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:08 PM   #3
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Wouldn't that be covered under warranties?
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:43 PM   #4
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Wouldn't that be covered under warranties?
Perhaps it would but by the time this member went to the dealership, explained this problem to them, the dealership then contacts Keystone to get approval to do the warranty work, dealer waits for Keystone, Keystone eventually replies and turns it down ..........sometimes it's a lot faster and easier just to do this kind of work yourself. Often, it turns out to be a better fix too!
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:55 PM   #5
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X2 what Festus said.
Just make sure that if the couch is in a slide, the screws are not so long that they penetrate through the bottom of the slide surface or it may tear your main floor carpet when the slide comes in. Carriage bolts from the bottom with nuts on top using the L. Just a thought.
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:41 PM   #6
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Thanks all, I'll try to get under the carpet and see what's there. It is in a slide, I first tried a 1 1/2" drywall screw in the original location, then moved it a few inches, initially felt like it bit, but pulled right out of both places.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:10 AM   #7
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X3 on what festus said. also on small screws I use "ca" like crazy glue. Remove the screw and put the ca into the hole let it cure. This hardens the threads ,then put the screw back in. I do this on my r/c airplanes to keep the screws from pulling out and cause the demize
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #8
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Dumb question, but do you need it screwed down? In the 311bhs we have a flip open couch with an air mattress on the slide out. It isn't secured to the floor which is nice bc we can move it out to clean up behind it. Previous owners really liked to eat over there. eww. Anyway, why screw it down at all?
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:17 AM   #9
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Dumb question, but do you need it screwed down? In the 311bhs we have a flip open couch with an air mattress on the slide out. It isn't secured to the floor which is nice bc we can move it out to clean up behind it. Previous owners really liked to eat over there. eww. Anyway, why screw it down at all?
I agree. We "unscrewed" our sofa in the Springdale because we were always losing a pillow or something else behind it. It was much easier to just unfasten it from the wall and let it sit there. It never moved and we never worried about someone sitting "hard" on it and pulling it out of the wall.

But, if you really think you need it secured, who not get under the slide, use 2"fender washers" and countersunk bolts up through the floor, sit the "L" brackets on the bolt and use a lock washer and nut to secure it to the slide floor. That way, it won't move unless it pulls out a chunk of flooring, and that's not likely to happen.
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