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Old 05-09-2023, 04:19 AM   #1
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Watch those kids closely....

and hug them often. Today's feel-good article is right here with the rescue of an eight-year-old young man in the UP in Michigan. And a sharp little fella he is!
https://www.uppermichiganssource.com...ss-state-park/
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:03 AM   #2
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One of the things I learned early on is that if you are searching for someone it is very important to keep calling out for them. If the missing person is injured or disoriented they will not see or hear you and calling out is more likely to end up with a happy ending.
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Old 05-09-2023, 09:27 AM   #3
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I'm glad everything worked out OK for that family and especially the boy. A couple thoughts came to mind when I read the article.

First, I think it's pretty impressive that the boy, so young, had already learned (or at least used some common sense) survival skills. However the kid figured that stuff out, that's pretty impressive, especially the way kids think, act, and function these days.

The second thought that DOES trouble me is the comment about half the family gathering fire wood .... um ... in a STATE park?

Every State Park I've ever visited (and we have visited hundreds) ... all say it's against the rules to gather firewood, it need to stay on the ground to help rebuild the humas and keep the wooded areas as natural as possible.

Maybe Michigan has a different set of rules, but if Michigan has a "no gathering fire wood rules." Then maybe there is a hard-knocks lesson to be learned here that if they would have followed the rules, they'd never have been in that position to begin with.

OK, this is just my observation. Still ... I'm glad the kids was OK in the end, and a tribute to all those who helped search for him.
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Old 05-09-2023, 01:41 PM   #4
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Understand that this was a wilderness State Forrest camping area (60,000 acres) not at all like your typical modern-era state park where you can just drive up on paved roads and set-up in a nice spot with modern amenities at your site or a short walk away. You can do that it parts of the park, but they were in a back country area. It is acceptable in many of these areas to pick up fallen dead wood for campfires. I know the area and considering the wolf population among other wildlife, it is a very happy ending indeed!
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Every State Park I've ever visited (and we have visited hundreds) ... all say it's against the rules to gather firewood, it need to stay on the ground to help rebuild the humas and keep the wooded areas as natural as possible.

Maybe Michigan has a different set of rules, but if Michigan has a "no gathering fire wood rules." Then maybe there is a hard-knocks lesson to be learned here that if they would have followed the rules, they'd never have been in that position to begin with...
In Michigan, there are National Parks, National Forests, State Parks (with state park campgrounds) and State Forests (with state forest campgrounds).

State Parks and State Forests are not the same thing and have different rules.

In most State Park campgrounds, there are paved roads to the campground and usually paved roads inside the campground, usually with either partial or full hookups, bath houses and often with formal "ranger supervised activities". The are usually crowded, busy and many feel they are "mobile surburbia".

Most State Forest campgrounds are in remote, hard to access locations, usually down long, winding gravel roads and often so far from "civilizaton" that there's no TV and no cell service. No bath house, no flush toilet, no running water (maybe a hand pump well if you're lucky) and usually not even a barrel for your trash (bring it in, you're expected to take it out)...

In most State Park campgrounds, there's NOTHING laying around to pick up, so looking for firewood is prohibited because people tend to "fudge and make deadfall when they can't find any".....

In most State Forest campgrounds, there's so much deadfall laying around that quite often, early in the camping season, you'll need to clear it away from where you want to camp, just so you can find a level site to park your trailer. That "deadfall" is not only a fire hazard, it makes using the campsite difficult or impossible. Obviously the rules about gathering deadfall to burn in the fire pit (usually made from gathering large bolders to place in a circle where there is what looks like a "burned out spot from last year) makes for a much more lenient rule. In most areas in Michigan, firewood can not be transported from one place to another, so "logicallly" (for what that's worth) if you don't gather firewood in a State Forest campground, you won't have a campfire because the closest place to buy firewood is potentially 15 miles away or even further. The State Forest campground we go to every year (best fishing in the northern UP) is 11 miles down a gravel road that turns to a "two track" about half of that distance. Every year, the scrub brush grows a bit taller and bushier and it's just a matter of when (not if) the road becomes too narrow for us to drag the fifth wheel to our "favorite campsite"... Last year, we went three times and all three times, we were the only campers in the campground which has 14 campsites, which are actually 14 signs nailed to posts spaced somewhat evenly around that "two track circle"....

That family's "firewood gathering expedition" is a common activity and where that campground is located, if they didn't gather wood for their campsite fire, they'd be sitting in the dark, eating cold, mushy bacon and raw eggs for breakfast.....

The only "rules about gathering firewood" in that type campground are "don't bring in firewood from another location" and "don't you dare cut a standing tree" !!!!!
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