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Old 07-26-2020, 10:25 AM   #41
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I own a 2017 highlander. As no one has said yet dry weigh means nothing. Your will be way over Total weigh of 5000 pound and tongue weight of 500 pounds. never believe a salesperson. I am in same position as u with what I can Safely tow. Was sold a passport which was 15 lbs from my max towing weight unloaded and was told I would be fine. I didn't take it home.
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Old 07-26-2020, 11:01 AM   #42
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Many years ago we were camping and passes an RV dealer close to cg. One rainy day we divided to "window" shop. Salesman asked what we were towing with. I told him a Dodge Durango RT that was rated for 7,500 lb max towing so I wouldn't consider anything over 6k empty. I didn't get into tongue weight as I thought limiting gross weight would be a start.

The salesman immediately took us to a 30' wood framed trailer that weighed nearly 10k. When I pointed out the obvious discrepancy he said "you have the RT so you can pull it no problem!. On our way out I found the GM and told him how ill-informed or ill- intended the salesman was and for that reason would not be back. I don't think the GM was either surprised nor concerned.

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Old 07-26-2020, 11:27 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by flybouy View Post

On our way out I found the GM and told him how ill-informed or ill- intended the salesman was and for that reason would not be back. I don't think the GM was either surprised nor concerned.
That's been my experience as well... Keystone has a "disclaimer" on the bottom of every brochure that says something like: It is the customer's responsibility to assure that the recreational vehicle they purchase is a match for their intended tow vehicle. Keystone and THOR are not responsible for unsafe or mis-matched towing combinations....

Every dealership around this area requires the purchaser to sign a statement that the tow vehicle they intend to use is adequate for the trailer they are purchasing and that the dealership bears NO responsibility for towing any trailer with an undersized or mis-matched tow vehicle.

They cover their butts and leave the customer "hanging in the wind" should anything happen.... Additionally, it takes some "mighty deep pockets" to sue THOR. Their full time legal staff likely costs them more annually than most RV'ers will earn in a lifetime......

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Old 07-26-2020, 12:22 PM   #44
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Passport travel trailers

Originally Posted by Oakville2020 View Post
Sorry. One more question (for now).
They are trying to sell us outside/paint protection (inside as well but included- 5 years you don't have to wax or something) and extended warranty (just like at the auto dealer-up to 6 years), we usually don't get those on our cars, but are they good on a trailer?
If you're still negotiating and we caught you in time check which tires are on the trailer. Trailer King tires are google'able and literally are china bombs. They need to be replaced for safety pretty quickly. That should be negotiable to put something better on to close the deal.

Other than that I was very pleased with my Passport trailer experience. Two years old now used 1-2 a month.
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Old 07-26-2020, 01:49 PM   #45
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This is kind of late. I am pretty sure those numbers are for sea level flat road service. I worked at a Ford dealership many years ago. The sales rep were supposed to tell their customers that they should take 20% off the load numbers. There is a big difference between pulling a trailer in AZ compared to the Rocky Mountains.
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Old 07-26-2020, 05:25 PM   #46
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Even later reply.
Search the Tow Vehicles section for my posts.
I HAD a 2016 Ford Explorer Sport with the twin turbo 3.5L V6. 365 HP and gobs of torque.
It was rated to pull 5K lbs. I forget the load rating.

That Explorer pulled my much lighter trailer with ease. Up hill, down hill no problem.
However, like the Highlander it doesn't have a frame.
Like the Highlander it had tires and suspension designed to give a comfy, smooth ride.

I got to where I'd wake up in the middle of the night worrying about the next day's trip.
It's just not safe. Trucks would pass me and the insufficient suspension would wiggle and waggle. Bumps in the road made the front end lose it.

Bought the TT in August 2016 and made a few short trips.
2017 I had a Chevy Silverado 1500 with the trailer package and we started doing 3 or 4, 2 or 3 week trips a summer.
Now I have a 2020 Silverado 1500 and it's even better (Just because of fancy stuff, LT to LTZ trim).
Point is my 3700 LB 195RB was too much for a SUV.

I don't think you will be happy with your Highlander.
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Old 07-27-2020, 03:09 PM   #47
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Perhaps the weight police can stop patrolling... poor OP hasn't been on the site since the 22nd. And I was about to suggest he loose a few pounds, have his family ride in a different vehicle, install one of those fancy hitches and add some airbags to his little Toyota truck. I imagine a visit here was like being doused in cold water but it sounded like he had not yet put money down so probably for the best.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:02 PM   #48
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The OP seemed like he was genuinely interested in what to do and how to figure numbers. I figure the information he gathered was enough to change directions. As far as weight police, and obviously I'm not one......"we never sleep"; if I recall Horatio Caine correctly...

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