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[LHaven]

In today's email, I got a notification for a new article discussing the capability differences between the 2020 F-250 and F-350. Something that people contemplating a new tow vehicle might find useful.

[Fishsizzle]

While the 250/350 debate is insane, just get the 350 already.

The whole tax thing must come into play for some...

On Ford.com when you build a truck, you can “de-rate” your truck. You click on the package and there is no suspension, frame change. Some weaker tires on some. You get a smaller gvwr on your door sticker

[mtofell]

Originally Posted by Fishsizzle

The whole tax thing must come into play for some...

I've heard HOA rules can also draw the line between 250 and 350. At that point I'd probably just get some 250 emblems to appease them but it's possible some folks factor that in when purchasing.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by mtofell

I've heard HOA rules can also draw the line between 250 and 350. At that point I'd probably just get some 250 emblems to appease them but it's possible some folks factor that in when purchasing.

If I had to "fight a HOA" with the "No 1 ton trucks allowed to be parked on the property" I'd also be inclined to order a F350 and a "pair of F250 emblems" rather than a "de-rated truck". With the "driver's door locked" the "HOA snoops" wouldn't be able to confirm the 3/4-1 ton issue and I'd still have a "full capacity truck"...

License/registration, on the other hand, isn't as simple to "fool with fender badges"....

[Beast2017]

Originally Posted by mtofell

I've heard HOA rules can also draw the line between 250 and 350. At that point I'd probably just get some 250 emblems to appease them but it's possible some folks factor that in when purchasing.

HOA rules suck! Some friends of ours has a sign when you turn into their subdivision that says “ no trucks over 3 tons”. As I drive my F350 diesel through the neighborhood and park next to his F350 Dually. Hahaha. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[CrazyCain]

Never heard of this about HOA's... How stupid!!!

[chuckster57]

HOA’s are not uncommon out here. When we bought our house an 2000 it was one of my stipulations that we didn’t buy in a neighborhood with one.

[CedarCreekWoody]

Originally Posted by Beast2017

HOA rules suck! Some friends of ours has a sign when you turn into their subdivision that says “ no trucks over 3 tons”. As I drive my F350 diesel through the neighborhood and park next to his F350 Dually. Hahaha. ��������

A F350 is considered a one ton truck. Carrying capacity, not weight. The question is which is the sign referring to?

[Beast2017]

Originally Posted by CedarCreekWoody

A F350 is considered a one ton truck. Carrying capacity, not weight. The question is which is the sign referring to?

I think with those signs refer to the GVWR but I could be wrong. My truck does weigh 8300 pounds with full fluids - wife, me, and 2 dogs.

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by Beast2017

HOA rules suck! Some friends of ours has a sign when you turn into their subdivision that says “ no trucks over 3 tons”. As I drive my F350 diesel through the neighborhood and park next to his F350 Dually. Hahaha. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

If that sign was posted by the HOA then how do they enforce it? The street/road would have to be private (I.e. not a county, state, or municipality owned maintained). With such a low limit how does a resident move in? A moving company truck would exceed that limit as would most appliance delivery trucks, roll back tow trucks, ambulances and obviously fire trucks.

Something doesn't sound right about this.

[xrated]

There are some things in this world that I am somewhat indecisive about....or even things that I change my mind as I grow older and hopefully wiser. NEVER living in a home that is within a HOA is something that I will never change my mind about.

[Ken / Claudia]

We moved into a HOA community in ID past July. Here they all have them to collect the unlimited water use for irrigation use. My subdivision collects 240 a year for that unlimited unmetered water use and park maintenance.
Streets are city owned not private.
HOA rules are all trailers must be stored/parked behind the property fence line. No owner vehicles left parked on streets. Visitors OK to park on street. We must keep yard mowed. Fencing must be same as when homes were build. Out buildings added must be approved through city laws.
Not many rules we need to follow. ATVs, golf carts and snow machines are allowed to be driven on city streets.
The rest of the rules were for the builders to follow. So here the HOA rules are fine for us to obey. I have read some that I would never live in due to way too much HOA power/rules.
My advice read every HOA rule before you buy.
I did buy a home in a private community of 15 homes. Lived there several years. No HOA rules. Only problem I did not like was sewer system was 4 blocks long to get to the public property road. It was on home owners to maintain and repair as were the road inside the area. Getting all home owners to pay for road repairs was difficult.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by xrated

There are some things in this world that I am somewhat indecisive about....or even things that I change my mind as I grow older and hopefully wiser. NEVER living in a home that is within a HOA is something that I will never change my mind about.

^^^^^Yessirree Bob! Having watched the lunacy my little brother and son have gone through with HOAs that is one thing I can promise you I will never do...just soon live in a box. (Sort of). Happy New Year's Eve!!

[travelin texans]

I doubt seriously that ANY HOA board members, not to mention some of the tow vehicle owners, could tell you what any given vehicle would weigh or be rated at without the paperwork or know where to look on the truck & then most wouldn't know what they're looking at.
I totally agree, NO HOAs for us! Nor any CO-OP parks, been in one if those that was worse than any HOA!

[JRTJH]

We own an empty lot in the HOA that's across the highway from our NON-HOA acreage. Last year, at the HOA general meeting, "the busy-bodies in the HOA" introduced a motion to restrict boat docks on the lake, prohibit parking boat trailers at the boat ramp and to stop all boat traffic on the lake except for 2 hours between 2 and 4 PM. In other words, to change the "lakeside community" to require no boats on the lake for 22 hours every day. There was a second, and a vote taken after discussion. The outcome was 10 yeas and 14 no's. To note, there are over 300 homes/cabins on the lake so that many "HOA members", but only 24 bothered to show up for the annual meeting....

So, depending on YOUR HOA, what might be OK today can easily be a violation of HOA rules tomorrow.... Not showing up to "protect your investment" at a meeting is just one of the ways that "lady who measures how close your trash can is to the curb and files a complaint" can manipulate your rights and privileges away while you're "literally not looking".....

HOA ????? HELL NO !!!!!

[gearhead]

First liar ain't got a chance. My HOA forbids anything heavier than a 1/2 ton. But I think I know who wrote the rules and she was as ditzy then as now.
We have a non-HOA HOA. The rules are written and at closing you sign to comply, but no one does. No one enforces them either. The city refuses to enforce. I bet there aren't 2 of us that know who the officers are. There never has been a meeting. One of them moved away 5 years ago. The other lives across the street from me and just put a boat carport on his extra lot.
The most common violations are parking in the street and boat and RV's in the driveway. Both of which do look bad and irritate me somewhat.

[notanlines]

Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?

[roadglide]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

If I had to "fight a HOA" with the "No 1 ton trucks allowed to be parked on the property" I'd also be inclined to order a F350 and a "pair of F250 emblems" rather than a "de-rated truck". With the "driver's door locked" the "HOA snoops" wouldn't be able to confirm the 3/4-1 ton issue and I'd still have a "full capacity truck"...

License/registration, on the other hand, isn't as simple to "fool with fender badges"....

I’m at HOA in Florida for a few months my Denali isn’t badged it came that way from the factory it’s under a carport thank goodness I didn’t buy a DRW .

[roadglide]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?

That’s me you mentioned but will go out back and drink fireball and smoke cigars that was the good ol days.

[Ken / Claudia]

Everyone remember rules and laws are two different things. HOA rules cannot be enforced by police unless there written into law. If we are talking about private property and private HOA rules police cannot enforce that stuff. The HOA board does and the HOA rules will state how they enforce their rules.
That means HOA board uses civil law to enforce. Them against you in civil court or in front of a hearings officer.
In the current subdivision I have not seen or heard of anyone enforcing the rules. Clear to the point of my home's 1st owner refused to have sod installed as the builder was required to do. He had bark chips instead of grass. Nothing was ever done. We did have sod installed and removed the bark chips. Never got a gold star from the HOA board.