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03-17-2021, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gearhead
I'm not understanding how you know where the dogs are by drawing blood.
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Once you have a “baseline” for kidney/liver levels, the subsequent draws let you know if something is out of whack.
Same thing if you have preblood drawn before surgery. You know if your pet can handle anesthesia or has something going on that may need treatment.
I’m not trying to say that it’s perfect, but when someone has a bad experience with a med, it doesn’t always mean it’s the meds “fault”.
Their pet could have a condition, either temporary or chronic that may need addressed.
It could also tell you that you would need to give a lower/higher dose.
I’m no Dr. so don’t listen to me if you don’t want to. Just basing my beliefs on what I have seen and experienced. Your results may vary as they say.
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03-17-2021, 08:02 AM
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I would agree with some of what you are saying but not so much with others. Having bloodwork done will tell you where you are on an ongoing basis with lots of things. It won't however tell you if a dog is more susceptible to a particular drug, anesthesia etc. unless there is something way out of line.
Puppy gets a blood panel done approx. every 3 mos. when she also sees a vet. She sees an internal specialist in Tallahassee every 6 months for several other specialized tests. None of this told them or us that she is very susceptible to anesthesia. They put her to sleep to do a simple teeth cleaning and almost lost her due to the anesthesia. They were surprised as well as us. Nothing in any of the extensive tests that we have performed told them that.
That type of situation, compounded by the fact that many, if not most, of the drugs administered to an animal are based on weight, is why I warned to be careful when giving your pet untried meds. You don't know what you don't know....and neither do they.
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03-17-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sourdough
I would agree with some of what you are saying but not so much with others. Having bloodwork done will tell you where you are on an ongoing basis with lots of things. It won't however tell you if a dog is more susceptible to a particular drug, anesthesia etc. unless there is something way out of line.
Puppy gets a blood panel done approx. every 3 mos. when she also sees a vet. She sees an internal specialist in Tallahassee every 6 months for several other specialized tests. None of this told them or us that she is very susceptible to anesthesia. They put her to sleep to do a simple teeth cleaning and almost lost her due to the anesthesia. They were surprised as well as us. Nothing in any of the extensive tests that we have performed told them that.
That type of situation, compounded by the fact that many, if not most, of the drugs administered to an animal are based on weight, is why I warned to be careful when giving your pet untried meds. You don't know what you don't know....and neither do they.
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All good. Like I said, I’m observing what I see and past experiences, making decisions for my dogs health. You are likewise doing the same.
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03-17-2021, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishsizzle
Once you have a “baseline” for kidney/liver levels, the subsequent draws let you know if something is out of whack.
Same thing if you have preblood drawn before surgery. You know if your pet can handle anesthesia or has something going on that may need treatment.
I’m not trying to say that it’s perfect, but when someone has a bad experience with a med, it doesn’t always mean it’s the meds “fault”.
Their pet could have a condition, either temporary or chronic that may need addressed.
It could also tell you that you would need to give a lower/higher dose.
I’m no Dr. so don’t listen to me if you don’t want to. Just basing my beliefs on what I have seen and experienced. Your results may vary as they say.
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Oh. I thought you meant "where they are" as their physical location.
Y'all spend some money on those animals.
I don't have a lot of experience with pets. We had hunting dogs when I was a kid. I'd best not go down that road here again.
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03-17-2021, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhead
Oh. I thought you meant "where they are" as their physical location.
Y'all spend some money on those animals.
I don't have a lot of experience with pets. We had hunting dogs when I was a kid. I'd best not go down that road here again.
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It’s a hard road for sure. We lost 3 last year. One was the best dog I had ever had. My heart is still very broke. Having a hard time showing affection to our new ones, but they are fun and I’ve come to realize I’m a dog person and I get a lot of lasting memories and endorphins when they make me laugh and smile.
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03-17-2021, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishsizzle
It’s a hard road for sure. We lost 3 last year. One was the best dog I had ever had. My heart is still very broke. Having a hard time showing affection to our new ones, but they are fun and I’ve come to realize I’m a dog person and I get a lot of lasting memories and endorphins when they make me laugh and smile.
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I had a GWP that had the best nose (and tail stub) I've ever seen. She was a joy to watch in the field and if she worked a field and came back to sit beside me, I knew nobody else's dog would find a bird in that field... When we lost her, it was about 4 or 5 years before I even wanted another dog. When I finally decided to get another one, he just never "measured up to Liebe". No matter how hard I tried or how much he tried, he could never work a field the way she did.... He was a loving dog, a fantastic companion, but as bird dogs go, "that dog won't hunt"... We loved him just as much, but..... Now that he's gone, there probably won't ever be another bird dog for me. DW is talking about a "lap yapper" and I'm not going to say no, but sure won't encourage her to go find one.....
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03-17-2021, 07:01 PM
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And us cat people are no different. First Siamese was brown point, named Harry ( looked like Harry from Harry and the Henderson’s. He would “stand point” in the hallway when I went to bed and would actually try to keep the DW at bay. He rode on my shoulder anytime I was home. He went cross country with us and unfortunately passed of cancer at 2 1/2 yrs old, 2 months after our trip. Yeah I was a “wreck”. A few months later Max, a flame point Siamese decided he needed to take up where Harry left off. When I broke my wrist and had to sleep in my recliner, he was curled up on my shoulder. He is now going on 13 yrs old and still thinks I am the shiznizel.
Then there is spooky II, she owns my lap but shares with Max.
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03-18-2021, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
And us cat people are no different. First Siamese was brown point, named Harry ( looked like Harry from Harry and the Henderson’s. He would “stand point” in the hallway when I went to bed and would actually try to keep the DW at bay. He rode on my shoulder anytime I was home. He went cross country with us and unfortunately passed of cancer at 2 1/2 yrs old, 2 months after our trip. Yeah I was a “wreck”. A few months later Max, a flame point Siamese decided he needed to take up where Harry left off. When I broke my wrist and had to sleep in my recliner, he was curled up on my shoulder. He is now going on 13 yrs old and still thinks I am the shiznizel.
Then there is spooky II, she owns my lap but shares with Max.
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While we can’t have cats as DW is allergic, I do love them. I had 2 when I was young. Ezmarelda and Bruiser.
Siamese are beautiful. Always have the impression of them from Lady and the Tramp. Glad yours are not like that LOL
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03-20-2021, 07:02 AM
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We are not full-time, but have taken our new pup on every camping trip since we got her.
Here she is on her first trip, to Ouray, at 8 weeks.
We have reservations, for Lake Livingston State Park and Inks Lake State Park, next week and Genie has been helping with trailer prep
The DW thinks we should start taking the cat too, not sure about that idea.
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03-20-2021, 07:46 AM
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That's a good looking pup in a beautiful setting. Haven't been to Ouray in 3-4 years....too long. Gotta get busy making some plans.
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03-21-2021, 07:08 AM
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Pets
There is nothing worse than having to put up with someone else’s pets in a campground.
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03-21-2021, 07:25 AM
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There is nothing worse than having to put up with someone else’s pets in a campground.
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There are lots of things that are worse. But I’ll keep this about how great pets are and traveling with them.
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03-21-2021, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dgl1948
There is nothing worse than having to put up with someone else’s pets in a campground.
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only when they are unruly. I have met loads of great pets when I walk my cat on a leash....YES he is harness trained and loves exploring
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03-21-2021, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
only when they are unruly. I have met loads of great pets when I walk my cat on a leash....YES he is harness trained and loves exploring
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Who is walking who? Cats usually call the shots ..lol
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03-21-2021, 08:13 AM
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He and I share LOL
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03-21-2021, 08:32 AM
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We travel with 4 dogs. At home, when they are not outside playing or practicing agility, herding and obedience with us, they live in their crates. So, in the back seat of our truck are 4 wire crates, with water bowls, securely strapped to the hard points of the seatbelts. They love being in their own space, and we love the security. In the 5er, there are also crates, securely strapped to the floor. They go into their crates at night and when we are showing one or two at the competitions, the others are in their crates, with air conditioning, water and safe places for them. Take care of your pets the same way you do at home. Carry poop bags with you, Pick up after them, immediately. Keep them active and happy and safe, and they will travel as if they were at home.
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03-21-2021, 10:28 AM
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We travel with a cat. Our vet prescribed diphenhydramine trans dermal. We rub a little in her ear about an hour before we leave and she is calm for about 6 hours. It does not knock her out, just settles her down. It has been great for us.
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03-21-2021, 12:24 PM
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We have tried traveling with our 12 year old Himalayan and she hates to ride. She yowled the whole 4 hours to the campground. Once we set up she was sick and threw up the first couple days and was fine till we got ready to leave. She yowled the entire trip home and that is added stress I/we don’t need. As much as I hate to leave her behind she’s gonna have to be boarded for a week in June
Maybe I’ll ask our vet about the diphenhydramine
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03-21-2021, 12:47 PM
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I suppose every dog has it's own personality and preferences. We travel with two schnauzers and they would be mortified to have to not ride with us. Plus, I agree with another response that things are pretty "bouncy" inside the camper on the road. I see a lot of people traveling (comfortably it would seem) with cats, also. Bring those critters up and let 'em enjoy the ride. LOL
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03-21-2021, 01:48 PM
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dgl1948, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your statement. (Imagine that ) We both love having the dog walkers come by and letting the dogs have a treat and then talk for awhile. Cat walkers come by on occasion, but the cats sort of march to a different drummer where treats are involved. And yes, cat walkers are becoming quite common. We even had a pot-bellied pig walker in Tallahassee.
We stayed in an RV park in Alabama years ago whose owners had three kids who raised hell while we were there. Rode (raced) around on their darned golf cart all day and night. Made me want to kidnap them, but I'm afraid the parents wouldn't pay the ransom!
I suppose we all have a few items that irritate us in various parks. But that's a topic for someone else to start.
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