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01-16-2021, 08:36 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Washougal
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Humble Greetings
New owner of 2021 Keystone Raptor 413.
I move it around with a 2015 Ram 2500 heavy duty crew cab long box 6.7 diesel.
I have now found all the light switches in the Raptor.
Now I'm trying to close the kitchen outside vent. Wish me luck.
Please forgive my simple questions. I must have missed the quick start guide.
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01-16-2021, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Oregon High Desert
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Greetings and welcome to the forum!
The outside kitchen vent cover is usually secured by two plastic latching tabs. Hold the vent cover closed, and then move the tabs over the ends of the cover.
Have fun and enjoy that new Raptor!
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Gary & Deb (44 years)
RV: Keystone 2013 Alpine 3495FL
TV: 2014 RAM 3500HD Laramie Long Box, 6.4 HEMI, 4x4, 4.10's, with Mopar Puck system, and a B&W Companion hitch.
Retired Firefighter/EMT.
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01-17-2021, 06:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Sun City West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Docar
New owner of 2021 Keystone Raptor 413.
I move it around with a 2015 Ram 2500 heavy duty crew cab long box 6.7 diesel.
I have now found all the light switches in the Raptor.
Now I'm trying to close the kitchen outside vent. Wish me luck.��
Please forgive my simple questions. I must have missed the quick start guide.
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Welcome to the forum. That's a mighty big trailer! Enjoy!
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2019 F350, SRW, 6.2L, 4.30 gears
Sold: 2020 Keystone Cougar '1/2 ton' TT, 29RLKWE
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01-17-2021, 07:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germantown, TN
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Welcome to the forum from sunny south Florida. Let the fun begin...
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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01-17-2021, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson
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Wow!! Welcome to the forum - and good luck!
No questions too "simple".
An Observation from your OP (original post): Isn't the Raptor 413 a 19K trailer? Behind your 3/4 ton truck?
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01-19-2021, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Saginaw Mn
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Welcome from northern MN.
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2012 Keystone Retreat 39 FDEN
99 Dodge One Ton Diesel Dually
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01-19-2021, 10:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
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Welcome to the forum. The "elephant in the room" (or should I say on the back of the truck) is a 43' 19K lb. trailer on a 3/4 ton diesel. Pin weight is typically 20~25% gross weight of the trailer when loaded for use. The only way to truly know the pin weight and the truck's weight is to load everything up to go camping and visit a truck scale.
At 19K and using a middle number of 23% that's a pin weight of 4,370 lbs. That weight doesn't account for the weight of the hitch or any other additions to the truck like a tool box, tools, stuff you have in the bed of the truck or any additions to the truck. I'm not aware of any 3/4 ton diesel truck with a payload that high. Look at the yellow and white tire inflation label on the driver's door pillar for the load capacity of the truck. I'm guessing your truck is likely a good 2K over load capacity.
Not trying to rain on your parade but just an honest safety concern for your family, the folks sharing the road with you, and your investment going down the road.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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01-19-2021, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Richmond
Posts: 625
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from the Water Winter Wonderland of Michigan...
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2020 Passport 2600BH GT
2019 Ram 1500 Quad Cab
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01-20-2021, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Liberty, Texas
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Welcome to the forum. Lot's of knowledge here.
Don't take the questions about your truck personal. Folks here want to help you have a safe experience, and of course the safety of others on the road. That said, your combination doesn't sound safe.
Numbers off your truck's yellow tag will likely confirm that you are grossly overloading the truck. Dealers and their sales force are notorious for not asking about your tow truck or just casually saying you're OK.
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Reese Goosebox 20K
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2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4 LB Cabover
2023 CanAm Defender SXS
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01-20-2021, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Richmond
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Just a question... that payload, not to mention towing capacity has to exceed a 3500 dual wheel truck doesn't it? Just wondering...
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2020 Passport 2600BH GT
2019 Ram 1500 Quad Cab
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01-20-2021, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Liberty, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge2
Just a question... that payload, not to mention towing capacity has to exceed a 3500 dual wheel truck doesn't it? Just wondering...
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No, I don't think so, at least most newer DRW's. I'm thinking my payload is around 5500#.
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Reese Goosebox 20K
2018 Heartland Landmark 365 Oshkosh
2008 Bigfoot 25C9.4 LB Cabover
2023 CanAm Defender SXS
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01-20-2021, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
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Might as well save the tips regarding the overmatched tow vehicle... OP hasn't been on since 1/16. He may be out licking his wounds. Most folks who are told they are very very unsafe on the road due to a tow vehicle not up to the job are not likely to want to face this issue after dumping a bucket of money on a new and HUGE camper.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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01-20-2021, 03:14 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
Might as well save the tips regarding the overmatched tow vehicle... OP hasn't been on since 1/16. He may be out licking his wounds. Most folks who are told they are very very unsafe on the road due to a tow vehicle not up to the job are not likely to want to face this issue after dumping a bucket of money on a new and HUGE camper.
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Nah, you're right George. They'll probably be pulling into this campground somewhere near me.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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01-20-2021, 03:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: nm
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I was looking at that same toy hauler and talking to a young woman that was the sales manager, she flat out told me I needed a Dully to pull that triple axle trailer.
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Anderson ultimate hitch
2015 311 Impact Fusion toy hauler
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01-20-2021, 04:07 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadglide
I was looking at that same toy hauler and talking to a young woman that was the sales manager, she flat out told me I needed a Dully to pull that triple axle trailer.
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Great to hear.....guessing that wasn't at a Camping World.
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2019 F350, SRW, 6.2L, 4.30 gears
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01-20-2021, 05:53 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Joppa, MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Nah, you're right George. They'll probably be pulling into this campground somewhere near me.
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You'll identify him readily at night. His headlights will be shining in the clouds like searchlights in London during the battle for Britain.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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01-20-2021, 06:22 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markcee
Great to hear.....guessing that wasn't at a Camping World.
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I would have to disagree. CW as a company doesn't try to mislead you, the "salesperson", that drove a forklift yesterday, is. Regardless of the dealership, company or any other thing, the BUYER is responsible for knowing his business; not trusting the guy at the gas pump to give him the "real scoop".
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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01-21-2021, 01:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Nashville
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hey this story sounds familiar...
I'll be taking delivery of my dually in a few days, hopefully. My lady is itching to get out of the house and start using the camper.
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01-21-2021, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Mico, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinnie
hey this story sounds familiar...
I'll be taking delivery of my dually in a few days, hopefully. My lady is itching to get out of the house and start using the camper.
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You reckon she will be taking you? You better post some pics of your new pickemup truck so folks won't think you are pulling our leg! Looking forward to it. I am too poor to buy anything under 10 years old so really enjoy seeing other folk's purchases!
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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01-24-2021, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Ocean Isle Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markcee
Great to hear.....guessing that wasn't at a Camping World.
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Actually, the CW I deal at would not have allowed that 5er to be hitched to that truck.
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