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10-11-2016, 02:40 PM
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Gfci problems
Hello I have a 2014 sprinter copper canyon 324bhs and none of my gfci outlets work and I can not find an outlet with a reset button. Anyone else run into this problem. FYI I have looked everywhere!!
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10-11-2016, 02:42 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
You may have a gfci breaker, check the panel for that.....
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10-11-2016, 02:49 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
I do have a gfci breaker and it is not tripped even tried resetting that and nothing
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10-11-2016, 02:57 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
More specific trouble info would help?
Most, not all "moderns", have reset button in Bathroom outlet, or Kitchen counter... it daisy chain, from there to any outlet you can reach from an "earth ground". (read that, Dirty feet)
Maybe defective outlet somewhere "downstream". Remember that any outside outlet, including refrigerator, exterior, or basement outlets may be at fault. and could be cause of a tripped GFI.
Good Luck!
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10-11-2016, 03:08 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
Try putting a volt meter on the breaker itself to make sure there is voltage leaving the breaker.....could have a breaker?
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10-11-2016, 04:47 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
Is it common to only have a breaker and not an outlet with a reset button
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10-11-2016, 05:18 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
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Originally Posted by Dmallen79
Is it common to only have a breaker and not an outlet with a reset button
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Its more common to have a GFI outlet. I have seen GFI breakers in some high end class A motor homes, but outlet is common place.
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10-11-2016, 08:31 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
Have you checked the exterior outlet?
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10-12-2016, 05:27 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
GFI outlets only last so long. If you are having problems the easiest solution is to replace the GFI outlet. If that doesn't fix your problem then you can spend a lot of time trouble shooting which outlet is grounding. $20 for a new GFI and 10 minutes to switch it out, can save aggravation/frustration. That is if you found the GFI outlet.
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10-13-2016, 06:19 AM
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Re: Gfci problems
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think there's supposed to be a GFCI outlet off a GFCI breaker. I'll let a for real electrician chime in on this, but I was once told to only have one GFCI device on a circuit and not others in series.
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10-13-2016, 06:48 AM
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Re: Gfci problems
When I see GFI breakers, I don't see GFI outlets on that circuit. The outlets are labeled.
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10-13-2016, 04:04 PM
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Re: Gfci problems
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Originally Posted by WaltBennett
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think there's supposed to be a GFCI outlet off a GFCI breaker. I'll let a for real electrician chime in on this, but I was once told to only have one GFCI device on a circuit and not others in series.
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Correct - only one GFI outlet or breaker per circuit. It's not really a problem to have more than one but it can lead to confusion when one trips. It's also a sure sign someone who didn't know they were doing did the work.
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10-18-2016, 02:31 AM
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Re: Gfci problems
I’m not an electrician BUT I don’t think it’s ‘that simple’… It depends… on where the ‘GFCI’ IS located AND HOW one wires things up…
Here’s my understanding:
FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION HERE: One can have/use two ‘types’ of GFCIs:
1. There are ‘Main (Electrical) Panel’ GFCI ‘circuit breakers’ that one can install IN THE/A ‘main’ (electrical) panel(s) alongside ‘NON-GFCI’ circuit breakers.
2. Then, there are also GFCI (Electrical) RECEPTACLES.
3. Then I think it ‘depends’ on how you wire things up.
4. For example, a SINGLE ‘main panel’ GFCI breaker CAN ‘host’ more than one non-GCFI outlet receptacle. (This is in fact how my house was wired by a professional electrician. I have ONE MP (Main Panel) GFCI supporting TWO ordinary bathroom electrical receptacles in each of my two bathrooms. I also have in my main panel a second GFCI breaker servicing a TWO (ordinary) outdoor receptacles.
5. In 1998 I had a spa installed in a sunroom I had built and the way the electrician handled the ‘code’ requirements for GFCI protection so as to AVOID having to take up TWO spaces in the main panel was to wire OFF a single 15 AMP MP breaker, mounted on the wall right beside the panel was a SINGLE GFCI RECEPTACLE/PLUG. Then from there/off it, he ran some ‘Romex’ out to an ‘ordinary’ receptacle in the sun room.
So, bottom line, I think it works like THIS:
1. One should NOT have more than a single ‘GFCI’ (of either the MP or Receptacle ‘Type’) in a circuit, ‘period’.
2. IF one has a single GFCI breaker REGARDLESS OF ‘TYPE’, that GFCI CAN ‘HOST’ more than one electrical receptacle., if it’s all wired up ‘right’. For example, while it is not common to see, one could have a ‘dual gang’ or more (4+ receptacles) in a single location hosted by a single GFCI receptacle in ONE of the ‘positions’. (This is really no different than plugging in, say, a multi-outlet ‘power bar’).
3. In fact, I THINK/am pretty sure that the GFCI RECPTACLE by the bedroom sink in my trailer also ‘supports’ a weatherproof outside receptacle on the RHS of my trailer.
I think it all depends on whether or not the downstream non-GFCI receptacles are chained off the ‘input terminals’ OR the ‘load’ terminals of the GFCI Receptacle (‘Type’). If so, all ‘downstream’ receptacles are ‘protected’.
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10-18-2016, 08:39 AM
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Re: Gfci problems
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Originally Posted by mtofell
Correct - only one GFI outlet or breaker per circuit. It's not really a problem to have more than one but it can lead to confusion when one trips. It's also a sure sign someone who didn't know they were doing did the work.
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^^^This.
A properly wired GFCI doesn't preclude another GFCI from being installed on the same circuit, but isn't done because it isn't necessary.
I would get a multimeter and check for voltage at the breaker. If no voltage when the breaker is closed (on), then you have a bad breaker. If you do have voltage at the breaker, start checking downstream, as something is open in the circuit.
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