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09-19-2022, 03:40 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Paramus
Posts: 11
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Hello from NJ
Hi everyone! Just put a deposit on a Passport 282QB. Won't come in until December, just in time for retirement! Looking forward to this journey with my new Keystone TT! I'm a first time camper and will be towing it with a F150 3.5 Ecoboost.
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09-19-2022, 07:51 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Daytona Beach
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Hi MWC, welcome from Daytona Beach. Spent many a Summer in Ocean City, and riding my bike thru the Pine Barrens. Best corn and veggies anywhere. Grew up in PA with the Jersey Shore an hour away via 195. Great memories. Have fun and ask away. These people here are awesome and very knowledgeable. Safe travels!
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‘06 Kargoroo 28KRS
‘20 F-150 XLT
‘00 FLHRCI
‘21 Royal Enfield Himalayan
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09-19-2022, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Momwifecop
Hi everyone! Just put a deposit on a Passport 282QB. Won't come in until December, just in time for retirement! Looking forward to this journey with my new Keystone TT! I'm a first time camper and will be towing it with a F150 3.5 Ecoboost.
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Before December retirement you may want to crunch some numbers on the F150.
That 33' long rv has a GVWR of 7700 lbs = right at 1000lb tongue weight (average 13% of the rv GVWR posted on the manufacturers tag on the drivers side front corner) + 100lb +/- for the mandatory WDH + the weight of everyone/everything in/on that truck, subtract all that from the payload listed on the yellow/white tag on the drivers door jamb stating "occupants and cargo must not exceed XXXXlbs.
Or load up the truck with everything/everyone as if going out on trip with the new rv & head to the scales, weigh the truck & subtract that weight from the trucks GVWR also posted on the door jamb, the difference is the max weight you can load onto your truck which includes that tongue weight & weight of the hitch.
I know that truck is rated to "tow/haul/pull" a gazillion pounds as advertised, which means nothing in the rv world, but it's limited as to what it can "carry" by those weights posted on the door jamb.
Not trying spoil your enthusiasm, just make sure you, yours & the rest of us on the highways with you are safe.
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09-19-2022, 09:18 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Paramus
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Thank you for that insight. Going to look right now!
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09-19-2022, 09:46 AM
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Junior Member
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09-19-2022, 09:51 AM
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09-19-2022, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
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From the yellow/white tag you have 1714lbs of payload. Your payload is the tongue weight of 1000lbs +/- (average 13% of the rv GVWR) + 100lbs +/- for the WDH + the weight of all people, pets & anything else in your truck that didn't come with it from the factory, including the change in the ashtray & the flashlight in the glove box, all subtracted from that 1714lbs.
Or as I said you can load your truck as you would to tow that rv, firewood, lawn chairs, bicycles, the DW, Fido, etc. & weigh it then subtract that weight from the truck GVWR on the white tag, the difference is your actual available payload then subtract the tongue weight & weight of the hitch mentioned above from that actual payload.
Rv salespersons are notorious for quoting truck max tow ratings, a truck sales gimmick.
Also rv dry weights, absolutely useless to you once that rv has arrived at the dealer where they added batteries, propane & any other dealer options. You will NEVER tow any rv near that dry weight unless you're the delivery driver & your truck WILL NOT tow any rv near that max tow rating as it will exceed the payload or axle weight ratings before that.
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Full-timed 10+ years
Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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09-19-2022, 10:58 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Paramus
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Thank you. I'm getting a better understanding after reading your replies!
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09-19-2022, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: South Jordan, Utah
Posts: 2,223
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Welcome from Utah!! And, Thank You for your service.
As my signature shows, my retirement training is complete. You are in for a lot of fun making memories and enjoying life with your new RV.
I know it might be hard to hear the unvarnished truth the members are offering, but RV dealers can be misleading at best when it comes to telling you what you need to hear opposed to what you want to hear.
In a nutshell, there are some added expenses you'll need to plan for. 1st, you will need a good quality, weight distribution hitch with anti-sway bars. Equalizer is one of the more popular brands.
2nd, you need to upgrade your truck tires (assuming you don't decide to just upgrade your truck) to LT type with at least a "D" 8 ply load rating. That's not going to change your 1700 lb payload rating but it will give you better tires for safer towing.
Lastly, you don't mention if your F150 is equipped with any kind of "Towing Package" from the factory. Something to think about if it wasn't. As a simple minded neanderthal I'm all about a new truck but the tow packages on the 150 with the Ecoboost are almost a must have.
Good on ya' for thinking about all this before actually hitting the road. Hope all works out for you.
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2007.5 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins
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09-19-2022, 06:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: delco
Posts: 148
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First time owner ,Youre gonna make his head sizzle !
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09-19-2022, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: delco
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While you are at it , I have a 2010 ram 3500 hd factory tow package do you know if the truck receiver is class 4 or 5 ? the reese wd setup shows 1210 lb tongue limit , i just bought a 33rli cougar tt 8600 lb empty and just over 10,000 gvw should i move to a 1700 lb. wdh to be safe?
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09-19-2022, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markdol1
While you are at it , I have a 2010 ram 3500 hd factory tow package do you know if the truck receiver is class 4 or 5 ? the reese wd setup shows 1210 lb tongue limit , i just bought a 33rli cougar tt 8600 lb empty and just over 10,000 gvw should i move to a 1700 lb. wdh to be safe?
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Mark, you have hijacked another's thread with a different set of questions. Best to start your own thread in the appropriate forum area.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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09-19-2022, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: delco
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If you think its a hijack ok it wasnt meant to be. folks talking weights and what is safe i thought was related.
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09-19-2022, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Hi Mark,
Looking at the Fed stickers I'd say the OP's 150 is a pretty standard model. Not trying to give anybody brain damage, but I think that 150 is going to need some work. JMHO
We had a 150 with the 5.4 V8 and towed a 7500 lb Wildwood TT. We did have the tow package. Larger radiator, 373 gears etc... I did upgrade the tires to 10 ply LRE and bought a WDH with the sway control. It would pull the Wildwood fine, but any hills were a 3rd gear 4k rpm grind.
As to your question re your hitch, unless your build sheet says different, it's probably a class IV receiver rated at 1200#
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2007.5 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins
Retirement Training Completed
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09-21-2022, 03:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Saginaw Mn
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Welcome from northern MN.
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09-21-2022, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: delco
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Thank you sir .I think i will be safer with the class 5 hich and WD setup.
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09-21-2022, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 990
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Welcome n enjoy
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Jacksonville, Nc
2020 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 29 rks traded now
2021 3761 fl Montana 5th wheel
Pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
Retired LEO after 35 years just enjoying life now.
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