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Old 12-03-2020, 10:44 PM   #21
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I know it's been a while since I've responded here but I have additional information.

I went to the professionals in Eugene and he suggested that all I need to do was change the angle of the head on the hitch. I did that and it took out most if not all of the sag. By tilting the ball a little farther out from the truck it forced the bars, still dropping 2 links, to take up more weight transfer.

I've also got weights, loaded and unloaded.
Unloaded no trailer: Truck front axle 3250
rear axle 2450
total 5700

Truck and trailer loaded: truck front axle 3300
truck rear axle 4150
trailer 6450
total 13900

If you take the unloaded truck weight only and subtract it from the total truck and trailer weight you have a loaded trailer weight of 8200. There was probably around 200 extra lbs in the truck when loaded.

Two adults were in truck at each weighing.

Okay number crunchers chew that up for a while and see what we get....



Oh, one more question: When considering "tongue weight" is that with WD bars connected or disconnected?
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Old 12-04-2020, 08:34 AM   #22
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If I'm interpreting correctly? you went from 2450 rear axle to 4150 loaded with the trailer? A 1700 lb. increase? Add the 50lb. increase on the front axle = 1800 lbs. dropped on the truck? With a payload of 1760 and 750lb. bars? I did not see the gawrs or gvw as I recall? I know I'm a bit distracted today but I think I may have missed something.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:26 AM   #23
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Tongue weight, 2 ways I have done it at truck scales. 1 way is to detach the trailer and put the tongue jack base on the scale. It will work, but here's a couple reasons that make it worst than connected to truck without WHD bars. It takes a lot more time and remember these scales are made for thousands of pounds not hundreds. DOT scales when I used them were certified and tested 2 times a year (as I remember) to be within 200 lbs.
Better way, have RV connected to truck and detach WHD bars and read truck axle weights. the rear axle will of course be heavier, the front axle should be lighter. You already have the stand alone truck weights, make sure gas and people etc is same as your weight check before.
Add the rear increase to the front amount that is lighter = tongue weight. Example: truck axle weight without WHD connected rear is 500 heavier and front is 200 lighter than stand alone truck weights= tongue wt. 700 lb. In my case I was 720 heavier in rear and 200 lighter on front = the 920 lb tongue wt.
My opinion to get most accurate tongue readings would be investing into a scale made to weight the trailer tongue weights.
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:16 AM   #24
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You need three weights at the scales.

1 truck alone with passengers and gear ready to camp.
2. truck and camper with wdh bars engaged
3. truck and camper, with wdh bars on the hitch with no tension, ie. after your second weight no need to move. Just release the wdh bars and let them set in the hitch or throw them in the bed so they will be weighed as part of the truck rear axle weight.

Hitch (tongue) weight will be determined by subtracting the number derived during weigh #2 RAW from the RAW during weight #3

All of this is irrelevant regarding the truck without knowing the gross front and rear axle weight ratings and the maximum payload number for your truck. Take a picture of the yellow and white "tire inflation chart" and post it back with your numbers.
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