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12-29-2020, 06:13 AM
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Forest River Fantasy Numbers
https://palominorv.com/fifth-wheels/river-ranch
Was looking at one of the online RV newsletters and they featured the FR Palamino River Ranch. I was kind of stunned to see some of the specs they described for this monster. Note the hitch weight in particular... 2295 lbs! This rig will probably be billed as 1/2 TON TOWABLE. That stated pin weight is about 16 percent of the shipping weight. How the heck do they come up with these fantasies?
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
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12-29-2020, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
https://palominorv.com/fifth-wheels/river-ranch
Was looking at one of the online RV newsletters and they featured the FR Palamino River Ranch. I was kind of stunned to see some of the specs they described for this monster. Note the hitch weight in particular... 2295 lbs! This rig will probably be billed as 1/2 TON TOWABLE. That stated pin weight is about 16 percent of the shipping weight. How the heck do they come up with these fantasies?
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WOW! a two axle 18,000# GVWR 5er with a 16.5% pin, not likely once loaded!
More likely about 22% for comfortable towing, and 3,960# pin.
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12-29-2020, 07:53 AM
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Location: Joppa, MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
https://palominorv.com/fifth-wheels/river-ranch
Was looking at one of the online RV newsletters and they featured the FR Palamino River Ranch. I was kind of stunned to see some of the specs they described for this monster. Note the hitch weight in particular... 2295 lbs! This rig will probably be billed as 1/2 TON TOWABLE. That stated pin weight is about 16 percent of the shipping weight. How the heck do they come up with these fantasies?
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Perfect for a Tundra! (he said in jest!)
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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12-29-2020, 07:58 AM
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Maybe there's a "misprint" in the last bullet statement in the "CONSTRUCTION FEATURES" section:
16" wheels with nitro fill tires
Probably should have been:
16" wheels with helium fill tires
With all that "under floor storage" there is lots of room for all the helium filled balloons without infringing on the living space....
Just another example that "anything is possible in the marketing department"...
This one belongs in Disney World's "Fantasy Land".....
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
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12-29-2020, 08:08 AM
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"Your F250 gasser will pull it like it's not even back there!" says the salesman.
With ALL that underneath storage I can see exceeding the 17999lb GVWR very easily & putting on nearer 25% pin weight.
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12-29-2020, 08:55 AM
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Just another example that "anything is possible in the marketing department"...
And I'm sure the Legal Dept. added a disclaimer in there somewhere with a font size suitable for microfiche printing.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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12-29-2020, 09:00 AM
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The storage comments are ON POINT.
When we were searching, I was intrigued at how much storage (underneath and cabinetry) these units have, but the cargo capacity doesn't merit! I compared cargo capacity to make sure we had the capability, not just the space.
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2019 GMC Sierra 2500HD 6.0L
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12-29-2020, 11:08 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Frostbite Falls
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I had one of these for a year. https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/fifth-wheels/arctic-wolf
Not the exact model but it was listed with these weights approx. 1350/8500/11000
It was light on the pin, only dropped my 2500 1 1/2 inches & trailer would bounce off of the 5th wheel on bigger bumps.
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12-31-2020, 09:42 AM
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Location: Winchester
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Come on folks. Delete the power cord reel from the standard equipment and you could tow this thing with an F-150. F-150's are magic. MAGIC I tell ya. Won't even know it's back there. 
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01-01-2021, 12:33 PM
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Only 2overhead cabinets in the kitchen? No drawers in the bedroom, guess you go outside to get your clothes after or maybe before shower. Don't see full-time living in that Rig
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01-07-2021, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Qualicum Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
https://palominorv.com/fifth-wheels/river-ranch
Was looking at one of the online RV newsletters and they featured the FR Palamino River Ranch. I was kind of stunned to see some of the specs they described for this monster. Note the hitch weight in particular... 2295 lbs! This rig will probably be billed as 1/2 TON TOWABLE. That stated pin weight is about 16 percent of the shipping weight. How the heck do they come up with these fantasies?
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A realistic pin weight is more like 3,960lbs at 22% of GVWR (17,999) This is for sure a diesel dually, maybe even one of those Volvo tractor rigs.
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