That 10,000 lb limit on 3/4 ton TVs

[Rocketsled]

Paradoxically, loading the (back of) the trailer heavier gets the numbers to work better...takes weight off the tongue.

[sourdough]

No matter where you put the weight you need to keep the correct percentage on the pin/tongue and then maintain gvw, payload etc. to maintain stability. In theory you could actually load everything in the rear of the trailer and reduce the actual truck only weight.....but I wouldn't go anywhere....or maybe you couldn't with the rear tires in the air? Just sayin..

[Rocketsled]

Originally Posted by sourdough

No matter where you put the weight you need to keep the correct percentage on the pin/tongue and then maintain gvw, payload etc. to maintain stability. In theory you could actually load everything in the rear of the trailer and reduce the actual truck only weight.....but I wouldn't go anywhere....or maybe you couldn't with the rear tires in the air? Just sayin..

Oh yes. But we’re dealing with relative percentages here, it’s still a 11,500 lbs trailer, it’s just putting ‘only’ 1600 lbs on the tongue instead of 1750...and with 10 links on the WDH instead of 9, which makes it harder to judge as well.

I just threw $4000 worth of axle, MORryde parts and tires at it. I’m going to treat it carefully.

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by Rocketsled

Paradoxically, loading the (back of) the trailer heavier gets the numbers to work better...takes weight off the tongue.

Paradoxically RVs don't have sufficient storage areas on the rear to load significantly to affect the tongue/pin weight. Even toyhaulers with toys loaded behind the axles it's not pound for pound off the hitch.
If you're talking utility trailers such as the manufacturer uses to arrive at the overly inflated max tow weights published then yes you can shift weights around front to rear to come up with whatever hitch weight you want, but can't do so in the rv towing world.

[Rocketsled]

You’re telling me 300 lbs worth of gas, 6 feet behind the rear axle won’t have an effect 20 forward of the axle? (I guess it could just get sucked up in the axle/weight equalization...)

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by Rocketsled

Oh yes. But we’re dealing with relative percentages here, it’s still a 11,500 lbs trailer, it’s just putting ‘only’ 1600 lbs on the tongue instead of 1750...and with 10 links on the WDH instead of 9, which makes it harder to judge as well.

I just threw $4000 worth of axle, MORryde parts and tires at it. I’m going to treat it carefully.

Watch sucking those links up. Used one of those chain things on my first 2 trailers. Once, when I thought I wanted to "lighten the load" I sucked those links up. Hit a bump in the road and my back tires just started spinning because I had shifted TOO much weight.

[Rocketsled]

Interesting. Dealership said “use 8, 9 if you load a bike in back”, I found that didn’t leave the 3-4 links between the springs and trailer the documentation recommended. Tried 10 with a full fresh tank (100 gal) and everything ran GREAT. With the tank empty, 9 links seemed to work well.

I’ll revisit after the suspension upgrades in the spring (heh)

[gearhead]

I was over payload with a previous truck and 5th. I experimented with weights a bit. I weighed with a full tank of water, 50 gallons at the rear. Lets call it 400# of water. I parked and drained the water tank dry. Re-weighed and lost 100# off the pin. It's not a 1:1 ratio.