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Old 11-30-2022, 09:05 PM   #1
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New to Site with 2022 Cougar 30BHS

Hello,

Just joined the group. Got our first trailer about a year ago (22 Wildwood FSX) and took it all through Idaho, Oregon, Northern CA - loved it - so we upgraded to a COUGAR 30BHS. This floorplan is amazing with our 3 kiddos (3, 5, 8). I tow it with a 2019 RAM1500 5.7 Hemi 4x4 Warlock.

I love the camping, etc. but also love getting back into my shop and 'geeking' out on all the new tech - solar, etc.

I have a lot of questions. Looking forward to hearing from all you experts.

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Old 11-30-2022, 09:09 PM   #2
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Thats a big unit there. Welcome.
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Old 11-30-2022, 11:23 PM   #3
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Hello, Charlie, and welcome to you and your family!

Congrats on that new Cougar.

Have fun and travel safe!
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Old 12-01-2022, 05:27 AM   #4
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Welcome to the forum!

As a fellow '1/2 ton' Cougar owner, also with a 9500 lb GVWR, be mindful that for the most part, the '1/2 ton towable' nomenclature is marketing hype. The 1/2 ton trucks most suitable for a '1/2 ton towable' trailer are stripped down base models, long bed version, with a heavy duty towing and/or payload package.

My trailer (1' shorter than yours) has a 1200 lb tongue weight when loaded to 8500 lbs. I towed it initially with an F150 'max tow' that had 1870 lbs of payload. Without loading much of anything in the truck I had a couple hundred pounds of payload remaining and was only 20 lbs shy of my rear axle weight limit.

Sounds like the Ram 'Warlock' is a lifted, off road type package vehicle. Lifted trucks are typically less suitable for towing and also likely have less payload capacity than other 1500s, as they have additional components added (more weight = less payload).

I'd take a look at the driver's side door pillar for the yellow and white Tire & Loading sticker which will list your truck's payload capacity as well a the other sticker there that lists its front and rear axle caps and GVWR. These will at least give you an idea of where you stand.
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Old 12-01-2022, 08:26 AM   #5
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Thanks! Yes, checked it all out prior to purchase of new trailer and I am def on the max side of things - and really have to limit payload to stay under. Looking to upgrade to 2500 soon. Thanks again.
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Old 12-01-2022, 12:52 PM   #6
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Welcome from south Georgia and congrats on your new Cougar.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:50 PM   #7
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Thanks! Yes, checked it all out prior to purchase of new trailer and I am def on the max side of things - and really have to limit payload to stay under. Looking to upgrade to 2500 soon. Thanks again.
You have already been notified that the 1/2 ton towable is something of a misnomer... a marketing jingle that doesn't live in the real world. With your family, chances are you will be close to gross weight in that camper. 1235 lbs based on 13 percent of gross weight. Don't know the weight of your family but say 550-600 lbs? Add hitch and you are looking at almost 2000 lbs hitch weight.

OK, the reason I bring this up is that MANY of the 3/4 ton trucks out there have less than 2000 lbs payload. My sister has a newish Ram 2500 with all the bells and whistles and her payload is just over 1800 lbs. You might consider going to a 1 ton. Same size but considerably more payload and the price is generally not much different at all. Just a thought. Good luck and happy camping!
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:06 PM   #8
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You have already been notified that the 1/2 ton towable is something of a misnomer... a marketing jingle that doesn't live in the real world. With your family, chances are you will be close to gross weight in that camper. 1235 lbs based on 13 percent of gross weight. Don't know the weight of your family but say 550-600 lbs? Add hitch and you are looking at almost 2000 lbs hitch weight.

OK, the reason I bring this up is that MANY of the 3/4 ton trucks out there have less than 2000 lbs payload. My sister has a newish Ram 2500 with all the bells and whistles and her payload is just over 1800 lbs. You might consider going to a 1 ton. Same size but considerably more payload and the price is generally not much different at all. Just a thought. Good luck and happy camping!
Well those 1,800# payload 2500’s are diesel. Likely the reason Ford and GM cheat and call a class 3 truck a 2500! 250 and 2500 are manufacturer labels that have been associated with class 2 trucks with max GVWR of 10,000#. In the last couple years Ford and GM have 250 and 2500 labeled trucks with GVWR greater than 10,000# making them class 3 trucks. Ram is still sticking to the 10,000# max.

That said I would also encourage the OP to skip a 250/2500 and get a one ton SRW.
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Old 12-04-2022, 05:53 AM   #9
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Congrats on the new camper and welcome to the group! I also have a 30BHS and we've traveled over 1100 miles in the past few months to various places. I tow with a Silverado 1500 LTZ 6.2 and Equalizer E4 WDH. My camper loaded up is at 8700 lbs. We don't take water with us, so that's not an issue with adding more weight. The truck tows it nicely, especially since getting the WDH dialed in.

If you do get another truck, I would skip the 2500 and would look at the 1-ton trucks just in case you go bigger with your campers in the future. We actually downsized to a 30BHS due to kids getting older and not going as often with us. The 5th wheel we had weighed more by itself than the truck and trailer together do now! I may get another HD truck in the future, but pulling the camper wouldn't be my sole reason. Something about driving the HD trucks since having them the past several years has a more commanding presence. LOL!

We've really enjoyed our 30BHS and the versatility it offers. The storage in the back, the open area in the living room and kitchen, plus those bunks when extra room is needed. Enjoy your trips!
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:47 AM   #10
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Old 12-08-2022, 12:52 PM   #11
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Coagulations and welcome.
You are going to love the camper and it will make camping so much more enjoyable for you and your family.
Something to think about. I have a 2020 Passport 3100QB, it’s a little heavier than yours. I had a 2012 Chevy 2500 HD crew cab and it had no problem pulling the camper. It was working hard (I’m sure yours does as well), head winds and long hills it worked even harder. I purchased a 2022 Chevy 2500 HD Diesel and the difference in towing is night and day. The towing is easier, smoother, we don’t care about head winds or hills anymore and because it’s not working as hard, it’s less stressful towing, it’s more enjoyable. Just something for you to think about.
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