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Old 03-24-2020, 02:50 PM   #41
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Guess what? That may be the best answer around!
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:22 PM   #42
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I watched the 2011 Matt Damon movie Contagion last night, it is a commentary to what is happening now. These are the similarities.
1) The term Social distancing
2) It is labelled a Novel virus
3) It originates in China
4) It is borne from swine and fowl

I have 4 millenials of my own, they are good kids, rooted, caring, they know what to do in most situations. Most of the info I am getting about the virus comes from my second daughter at Carleton University in Ottawa where she is earning her phd in biology.
I'm afraid there is no kind or moral way to cull the herd. I've just about gotten over the virus, but I have a very good immune system, for now.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:39 PM   #43
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I've been on other forums this evening; some RV related and some not. Some folks are level headed and some are "destroy the country and those in it because I'm scared" with no concept of the consequences of what they propose. Some say that those that have worked all their lives to save something now "need to pay" for those that live paycheck to paycheck...I'll leave my thoughts on that to myself.

This virus, to some, is the "black plague", the end of the world, now way to stop it and we are all going to die unless we go into hiding, quit our jobs and let the country grind to a stop...regardless that we then all have to start from scratch (I have truly began to believe that anyone under 40 has no clue how the world/economics work...in real life)....think 1700 and creating "your" world - "taking" what you need from the weaker - or not being able to. Not gonna be pretty and far worse than letting the disease take its course. For thought, here is a link to what "coronavirus"...."the end of the world" is like vs the flu. Remember, the stats for the flu have been posted and they are SO far worse than this current "pandemic". Take it for what it is; man up; hide; crawl in a hole and hope; blame anything and everything....it is what it is....and it's not the grim reaper. As has been said in many publications; it is a weak virus, we've just never seen it. We will kill it; the world won't end unless we do it to ourselves... Note that the observations are that the "accelerations" in growth are due to situational (read - your country, your medical abilities etc.) not mutations like the regular flu -which from what I've researched is far more dangerous- we just don't know what covid 19 IS but it will be controlled shortly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/hea...cid=spartanntp
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:45 AM   #44
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Referencing my previous post, my DS did confirm that they were told they could not go outside and that their little municipality was being "patrolled" looking for violators - that's just wrong. With the hysteria being generated by the media, not facts, some locations/cities/counties/states are going off the deep end doing things that don't make sense, aren't effective but are truly disrupting peoples lives and commerce - without any idea of what they are doing because no one knows.

Read/heard some good news IMO. "The cure can't be worse than the problem"....think about that. We are destroying businesses, lives, savings accounts (mine is down a LOT) and everything else out of fear - just fear, nothing else. At least that statement, and the fact that the President appears to understand the situation at hand and will hopefully get a handle on a manageable situation that has run amok should make one feel a little better.

If we continue down the current course unchecked, the out of control press, and those that want this country to fail, will.....destroy the economy - you cannot just shut down businesses and let employees go home unpaid forever. Oh, and the government can't just "give" trillions to all of those out of work folks, closed businesses etc. One thing many of our friends in government forget is that....they don't have any money! It comes from those MAKING money - when businesses close and people don't work...there is NO money for them to give away.

I've pondered this for quite some time. At what point do we, as self directed humans, decide that we want to "kill" our lives out of fear. What are we willing to sacrifice because we are "afraid"? Everything you own...as is happening right now? Your future? Any possibility of living a normal life? If this continues do you want to "live on the streets" with the other 300M folks that met the same fate? Put your family through unmentionable pain, grief and deprivation to....what exactly? Not be afraid? I think many/most that are driving this are ones that have never faced death, never had to make a life/death decision....coddled.

I've lived and had a wonderful, blessed life. My DW means the entire world to me along with my kids. A prolonged period of what is going on now will totally destroy their lives going forward. Miserable, nothing - all savings lost, can't pay bills, groveling for food or shelter. Will I take my chance with this thing vs that outcome? All day, everyday. Are they on the same page? Absolutely. The chances of getting this virus and dying are slim. The chances that your life will be destroyed if we don't change our direction and inject common sense is assured. JMO/YMMV and I'm sure it does....and yes, I worry about it but I'm not going to put one of my weapons to my head and end my life because I'm scared of "it" - which is exactly what we are doing by killing the entire economy of the country.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:22 AM   #45
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Give your collective heads a shake people. This isn’t just about America and your rights! This is a world wide pandemic that the world is working to contain! No one is limiting your travel forever, give it the two or three weeks of limited travel and keep your distance and maybe we can conquer this thing faster and get our collective selves back to normal.
Maybe had we all taken this serious and acted quicker, (Xxxxxx) we could be further along.

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Old 03-29-2020, 11:14 AM   #46
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Give your collective heads a shake people. This isn’t just about America and your rights! This is a world wide pandemic that the world is working to contain! No one is limiting your travel forever, give it the two or three weeks of limited travel and keep your distance and maybe we can conquer this thing faster and get our collective selves back to normal.
Maybe had we all taken this serious and acted quicker, (Xxxxxx) we could be further along.

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Bill Gates in a 2015 (https://www.geekwire.com/2020/bill-g...ted-talk-2015/) made a speech that told us of what is coming and he has been proven correct. We need guidance now to find our way and that guidance should come from those who are most knowledge, that is people with the DR in front of their names, specialist who study world economy and what will happen to us if we do not follow the advice we are given by those who know what they are talking about. It is never easy to take harsh measures in the short run to save ourselves in the long run and those of us without a depth of knowledge of Pandemics and economic hardships should listen to those who have dedicated their lives to this subject and not just rely on our own personal emotions.
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Old 03-29-2020, 03:12 PM   #47
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Bill Gates in a 2015 (https://www.geekwire.com/2020/bill-g...ted-talk-2015/) made a speech that told us of what is coming and he has been proven correct. We need guidance now to find our way and that guidance should come from those who are most knowledge, that is people with the DR in front of their names, specialist who study world economy and what will happen to us if we do not follow the advice we are given by those who know what they are talking about. It is never easy to take harsh measures in the short run to save ourselves in the long run and those of us without a depth of knowledge of Pandemics and economic hardships should listen to those who have dedicated their lives to this subject and not just rely on our own personal emotions.
Well stated.
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:16 PM   #48
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Everyone,Please Don't Abbreviate

The title is the message...There are slot of new people to Camping and it's extremely frustrating to read an article and sit and have to guess at all the abbreviations. We don't all live in the Great State Of Texas!!
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:36 PM   #49
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The title is the message...There are slot of new people to Camping and it's extremely frustrating to read an article and sit and have to guess at all the abbreviations. We don't all live in the Great State Of Texas!!
Which abbreviations used in this thread do you credit to Texans? I am a Texan and generally see abbreviations in EVERY thread for which I have no idea. I also see folks whose whole sentences are rendered incomprehensible because of spell checking. Folks would always do well to re-read what they have written just to be sure it is clear to a Texan like me.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:12 PM   #50
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Not many abbreviations in this thread...

IMO in my opinion
IMHO in my Honest opinion
JMO just my opinion
TX Texas
X2 I agree also with above
DS or DW spouse
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What did I miss that you need explained?
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:00 PM   #51
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Not many abbreviations in this thread...

IMO in my opinion
IMHO in my Honest opinion
JMO just my opinion
TX Texas
X2 I agree also with above
DS or DW spouse
MH Motor Home

What did I miss that you need explained?


I thought I saw

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Old 03-30-2020, 12:33 AM   #52
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There's a sticky on abbreviations in the new members section.
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

You can also google abbreviations
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Old 03-30-2020, 02:25 AM   #53
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The title is the message...There are slot of new people to Camping and it's extremely frustrating to read an article and sit and have to guess at all the abbreviations. We don't all live in the Great State Of Texas!!


Sorry. Those abbreviations are a part of the Great State of the Internet!

In a post referenced above DS was meant for "dear son" and can be found by googling;

https://www.google.com/search?source...4dUDCAc&uact=5
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The title is the message...There are slot of new people to Camping and it's extremely frustrating to read an article and sit and have to guess at all the abbreviations. We don't all live in the Great State Of Texas!!
I know what most of the abbreviations mean but I totally agree with you, they do get over-used and make for difficult reading, And I'm a Texan.
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:25 AM   #56
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[QUOTE=denny566;383801We don't all live in the Great State Of Texas!![/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I don't think we've closed the borders yet, so if you hurry we might let you in? But not being a Texan your quarantine will be 28 days. JMO!

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No one is limiting your travel forever, give it the two or three weeks of limited travel and keep your distance
Your estimate is much more optimistic than mine. I expect to see the travelin' life in the toilet for at least the entire summer. Even if the flu disappears due to "not-flu season," the dislocations will endure. Bankrupt campgrounds have no availabilities.
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Your estimate is much more optimistic than mine. I expect to see the travelin' life in the toilet for at least the entire summer. Even if the flu disappears due to "not-flu season," the dislocations will endure. Bankrupt campgrounds have no availabilities.
Additionally, the majority (or at least a very large portion) of the RV community is over the age of 60 with many being over 75. Those people, even if they do travel a bit this summer, will be very reluctant to tow into areas that are currently "hot spots" for this pandemic. We've already cancelled our planned trip to New York, Vermont and Maine. With the uncertainty of a COVID-19 resurgence in the fall, we just don't feel comfortable heading into that area, not knowing if October will bring the realization that the viral load "never died but just hibernated during the summer and returned with cooler weather and everyone who "thought they were safe during the summer" is now potentially infected.....

Maybe we're being "too cautious" but I can postpone that trip for a year, hang closer to home this summer, stay busy camping locally and doing the things I've been putting off around the property. It'll still be a "busy summer" just likely without as much "towing time"....
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Maybe we're being "too cautious" but I can postpone that trip for a year
If this emergency has spotlighted one uncomfortable truth for those of us in the age-bracket crosshairs, it's how naive it is to make the assumption that one can confidently postpone anything for a year.
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I just travelled pulling a 35ft 5th wheel, from Mission Texas to Detroit Michigan.

I would not recommend you travel.

Something is going to happen, not sure what, but it ain't good.

Let the dust settle, then you'll be good to go, but for now it ain't a good idea.

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