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[NH_Bulldog]

It’s not just a Ford thing, I looked at Ram and Chevy and GMC and the minimum dealer markup over sticker I found was $5,000 for anything on the lot and I looked within 500 miles of my home.

I got lucky and paid no dealer markup, plus I was able to deduct a factory cash incentive and a First Responder appreciation discount. Combined with the equity from my trade, and a very favorable 48 month financing rate, I will never be upside down in my truck’s value.

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

Awhile back there was a thread about CW price gouging on parts, well if this isn't price gouging I guess I don't know what is!
As you've read in the past I'm not a Ford fan & I wouldn't give $77k for a brand new one let alone $123k for a used one. That thing will be sitting on the lot til the tires rot off if it were up to me!

Danny, Danny, Danny. Don't hold back we're all freinds here. Tell us how you really feel!

[wiredgeorge]

The current interest on a 7 year car loan is 5 percent or so (I think). Since this is a used truck, guessing it might be a bit higher. Here is what one website said about the loan (7 years @ 5 %) with a $1500 down payment (I based it on $122K)

Loan amount: $120,500.00
Monthly payment: $1,703.14
Sales Tax: $1,220.00
Total Interest: $22,563.43
Total Cost: $145,783.43

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

I don't know what kind of deal they did, but the window sticker on that VIN lists it with an MSRP of $98,095.00, so the dealer's asking $27K more than it cost new.... Here's the window sticker for that specific truck (by VIN). Thankfully the previous owner ordered it with the optional console vault, you'll need it to carry your spare change LOL

The dealer listing is here: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/m-Al-P...329245830/NONE

IMO, ya gotta be real hard up for a truck to pay that much over window sticker for a used truck with 9700 miles on it. "JUST WOW" !!!!!

who knows if they will even honor THAT price ….back in 2012? i believe i went to the same dealer to buy a black boss 302 laguna seca that they had listed for close to 10k over sticker …special internet price …it was on the showroom floor brand new…i went in and was ready to buy it that day because i still thought it was a good deal because of the future worth…..the salesman acted like he had no idea about the internet price and they didn’t want to sell it for that price …even the mgr acted like i was talking crazy ….I walked out…looking back i’m glad i passed on it as i like the newer body style better

[jasin1]

i wonder how the insurance works if you total the truck? guessing you will need “super gap”insurance to cover the loan

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

The current interest on a 7 year car loan is 5 percent or so (I think). Since this is a used truck, guessing it might be a bit higher. Here is what one website said about the loan (7 years @ 5 %) with a $1500 down payment (I based it on $122K)

Loan amount: $120,500.00
Monthly payment: $1,703.14
Sales Tax: $1,220.00
Total Interest: $22,563.43
Total Cost: $145,783.43

i bet the bank will only loan up to the trucks value …maybe a little more. the dealer and the bank are gonna want 25k down

[Badbart56]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

The current interest on a 7 year car loan is 5 percent or so (I think). Since this is a used truck, guessing it might be a bit higher. Here is what one website said about the loan (7 years @ 5 %) with a $1500 down payment (I based it on $122K)

Loan amount: $120,500.00
Monthly payment: $1,703.14
Sales Tax: $1,220.00
Total Interest: $22,563.43
Total Cost: $145,783.43

Interest rates are not that high, or else my credit score is the reason but I bought a Cadillac Escalade last month for my wife and the rate was 3.74. Who knows, might have went up since then.

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

Interest rates are not that high, or else my credit score is the reason but I bought a Cadillac Escalade last month for my wife and the rate was 3.74. Who knows, might have went up since then.

The Fed has increased prime to combat the inflation caused by some foreign dictator or previous politician or well, whatever.

Here are the rates at my credit union today for my zip code. I think these may be for used as there was a note: "For vehicles over 100K miles, an additional 1.00% will be added to the rate". I also think credit score is a big factor.

months
7 - 66 2.94% - 15.74%
67 - 75 3.49% - 16.74%
76 - 84 4.54% - 11.94%

[Camping family]

Tk market is going to end up like the housing market was. People buy those over priced trucks then when time comes to trade will be so upside down will never be able to get out of it.
I was lucky in my new purchase yes it did take 8 months to get. Msrp was 76,000. Ford plan price 61,000. My trade was 2019 f250 king ranch received 56,000. End result got a new 2022 F350 king ranch financing 43,000. With great financing of 2.5 for 60 months.

[CampNBrew2]

Finally (6 month wait) received my new gasser. Luckily I was able to take advantage of the 3year, 0% financing.
With only 25 miles on the clock, the 6L90 transmission failed (wouldn't come out of 2nd gear). Dealer replaced the TCM, then the whole transmission.
Hopefully just a fluke. I have researched and the dealer also said these have been very good transmissions. Not a good start! I will always worry about it now. Running like a champ though and surprisingly I like the 6 speed better than my Ram 8 speed.

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by CampNBrew2

Finally (6 month wait) received my new gasser. Luckily I was able to take advantage of the 3year, 0% financing.
With only 25 miles on the clock, the 6L90 transmission failed (wouldn't come out of 2nd gear). Dealer replaced the TCM, then the whole transmission.
Hopefully just a fluke. I have researched and the dealer also said these have been very good transmissions. Not a good start! I will always worry about it now. Running like a champ though and surprisingly I like the 6 speed better than my Ram 8 speed.

Sharp looking truck! I seriously doubt your new tranny will give you a lick of problems. Enjoy it.

[NH_Bulldog]

Originally Posted by LERD

I heard a very bad rumor, and I think you're the one that has ears to the ground to know if it's B.S.

I finally took a drive of a used '21 F250 only to see the interior layout (Lariat) and drive the engine. This dealer has no duallys in stock or on order. It's either wait for a '23 or order a Ram dually. (Which isn't bad, I just prefer the Ford) But the rumor I heard is that the factory currently has enough 2022 Super Duty orders to last until late December, and the order banks for a 2023 won't open till spring.

Is this something you possibly could know if it's true?
I certainly appreciate any insight you could share. Unless you're sworn to secrecy.

There is a new update on Super Duty production. As noted previously, the 2022 order bank is closed as of April 1. Ford released that they will start accepting 2023 Super Duty orders in mid October (about a month later than I had guessed). Currently, Ford plans on building 2022 models through the 3rd week of December. This means that first 2023 deliveries should start happening in January/February.

[Roper46]

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had ordered a 2022 GMC 3500 SRW SLT on 11/17/21. This GMC was built the last week of 01/22 and scheduled for delivery to my dealer mid March 2022. This truck also has a $5k dealer mark up. The end of March I got a notification from the dealer that my truck was one of about 4000 units that had a hydrolock / no start issue.

Initially GMC intended to swap out the Duramax engine and ship it to the dealer with the new engine. Then mid April 2022 GMC decided not to swap engine and my dealer could reorder the same truck with a rush build priority. This order was submitted 4/23/22. The end of May 2022 the "priority" order had not been accepted by GM.

At this point I told the dealer to refund my deposit, which they did and I decided to keep my paid for Ram 2500. And get this, GM still lists the order number for the "priority" order as received from the dealer but not yet accepted. So with the price of everything from diesel fuel to loan rates going up, I am keeping my Ram.

[JimQ]

Awesome truck! Congratulations!

[Camping family]

Originally Posted by Roper46

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had ordered a 2022 GMC 3500 SRW SLT on 11/17/21. This GMC was built the last week of 01/22 and scheduled for delivery to my dealer mid March 2022. This truck also has a $5k dealer mark up. The end of March I got a notification from the dealer that my truck was one of about 4000 units that had a hydrolock / no start issue.

Initially GMC intended to swap out the Duramax engine and ship it to the dealer with the new engine. Then mid April 2022 GMC decided not to swap engine and my dealer could reorder the same truck with a rush build priority. This order was submitted 4/23/22. The end of May 2022 the "priority" order had not been accepted by GM.

At this point I told the dealer to refund my deposit, which they did and I decided to keep my paid for Ram 2500. And get this, GM still lists the order number for the "priority" order as received from the dealer but not yet accepted. So with the price of everything from diesel fuel to loan rates going up, I am keeping my Ram.

Yep truck issues are everywhere. Took 8 1/2 months to get my new 2022 f25 king ranch. Then it didn’t come with the 5th wheel hitch package or spray in bed liner. Dealer had to install both of them. It’s a mess for sure.

[LERD]

Originally Posted by NH_Bulldog

There is a new update on Super Duty production. As noted previously, the 2022 order bank is closed as of April 1. Ford released that they will start accepting 2023 Super Duty orders in mid October (about a month later than I had guessed). Currently, Ford plans on building 2022 models through the 3rd week of December. This means that first 2023 deliveries should start happening in January/February.

Well thank you for the update! I've been perusing the web looking for any production clues or pictures on the '23. We had a setback for traveling with my DW's shoulder replacement surgury this week. So waiting won't be so bad, because half of our trips are temporarily postponed. So we didn't really have an immediate need to upgrade the RV. Quite honestly the way this whole economy is shaking out, I think a little patience on my part is prudent.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by LERD

I heard a very bad rumor, and I think you're the one that has ears to the ground to know if it's B.S.

I finally took a drive of a used '21 F250 only to see the interior layout (Lariat) and drive the engine. This dealer has no duallys in stock or on order. It's either wait for a '23 or order a Ram dually. (Which isn't bad, I just prefer the Ford) But the rumor I heard is that the factory currently has enough 2022 Super Duty orders to last until late December, and the order banks for a 2023 won't open till spring.

Is this something you possibly could know if it's true?
I certainly appreciate any insight you could share. Unless you're sworn to secrecy.

Well get the Ram.
Ram went back to the Bosch CP3, and did a recall on the ones with the Bosch CP4.2, likely too many warranty issues with HPFP failures.

[falcondan95705]

I have owned 3 psds... last was an 02 lariat.. nice trucks for sure. On our 2nd Ram now.. 17 3500 Dually. Aisin, 4:10s , auto level.Longhorn..

[3121RL]

Originally Posted by NH_Bulldog

Ours was ordered 12/27/21 and arrived at the dealership yesterday and we picked it up today. I can’t image waiting 7 months!

Still waking on the F450 order August of 2021 .... 10 months and counting 😂

[LERD]

Originally Posted by 3121RL

Still waking on the F450 order August of 2021 .... 10 months and counting 😂

For all of that agrivation, that truck had better be perfect! I Hope it comes on soon for you.