Tire recommendation for Passport 221BH

[MikeHoyt]

We have a 2022 Passport 221BH that was new this season. It has the original factory tires. We were planning to replace with Goodyear Endurance based on all the recommendations and our previous experience on our last trailer with the Endurance. However my tire dealer does not sell Goodyear. He recommends Road Rider tires which he installs on construction trailers and other heavy duty applications.

Any one hear of Road Rider? Is the consensus that these are good or bad? Should I go elsewhere and buy Goodyear Endurance?

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
2022 Passport 221BH

[wiredgeorge]

Never heard of Road Rider tires but a quick search turned up a thread on the Forest River owner's forum:

https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...one-28370.html

I personally use Carlisle Radial HD Trail special trailer tires on my 5th wheel as they are less expensive than Goodyear Endurance, have been around longer and have provided excellent service and value after a number of sets on various campers I have owned. I purchase mine through Walmart and have them delivered and take them to a local tire shop for mounting.

[NH_Bulldog]

I installed Endurance on my Passport 240BH and they worked out great. I ran the factory Trailer Kings for 3 years and close to 30,000 miles with no problems, but I wouldn't go out of my way to put Trailer Kings back on. With a lightweight trailer like a Passport (frame, running gear, etc.) I would be wary of any tire portrayed as heavy duty (this equates to a hard/rough ride).

My new Cougar 5th wheel came with Endurance from the factory and they continue to meet/exceed my expectations. GY Endurance or Carlisle is your best bet.

[sourdough]

Never heard of Road Rider before but when you can spend 15 minutes online and not find anything about the manufacturer of Road Rider tires (Galaxy? it appears) it's a red flag to me. Carlisle makes very good tires that would fit your rig (Radial Trail HD). I've used them and have nothing but good to say about them.

[flybouy]

EVERY retailer will "highly recommend" whatever they sell. Brand be damned, if they have then "they're the best", especially if they have a lot of them in stock.

I have been running the Carslise Radial Trail HD on our trailer (second set) and would buy them again.

[JRTJH]

For me, I've been running Carlisle Radial Trail HD for the past 8 or 9 years and prior to that, the Radial Trail RH which was the same tire. I used them for about 10 years, so that's around 20 years of good service from Carlisle Radial Trailer ST tires. I've go them on 5 trailers currently plus on the log splitter, so 7 axles with Carlisles currently on the ground and not an issue in that entire 20 years.

Endurance appears to be very similar in reliability, but cost about $150-200 more per set of four. Either will "do you good on your trailer"... Carlisle will "do you good in your pocket" too....

[Peto]

I just replaced my China Bombs and was targeting the Carlisle Radial Trail HD but Discount Tire (my go-to dealer) has discontinued them after a recent acquisitions of another tire co. so I went with the Endurance. Couple bucks cheaper but I don't have to drag the trailer all over town to get the Carlisles.

[locomech]

I replaced the Trailer Kings on my Passport with Goodyear Endurance tires. When I went to Discount Tire I asked for Carlisle Radial HD's but was told they were out of stock. The manager recommended the Goodyear Endurance tires and gave them to me for the same price as the Carlisle's. That was in 2019, now this last spring I replaced those Goodyear's with Carlisle's because the price of the Goodyear's was quite bit more.

No complaints with the Goodyear Endurance when I had them and so far no complaints with the Carlisle's.

[dutchmensport]

My previous 2 travel trailer tires were switched out with Carlisle's also. My current fifth wheel uses a larger tire, I'm now running on Hercules. I've had absolutely no issues with the Carlisle's or the Hercules.

[rlh1957]

30,000 miles on trailer tires? 30,000 in 3 years? Come on!
I’ll give it maybe a slip of the finger and it’s meant to be 3000 miles.

[workinonit]

Are you saying the tires won't last but 3000 miles?

[rlh1957]

Originally Posted by workinonit

Are you saying the tires won't last but 3000 miles?

Those tires may last 3000 possibly more, but certainly not anywhere near 30,000 miles 3009 is a respectable distance over three years… and no issues on blow outs? Tread separation occurs on these tires.

[NH_Bulldog]

Originally Posted by rlh1957

30,000 miles on trailer tires? 30,000 in 3 years? Come on!
I’ll give it maybe a slip of the finger and it’s meant to be 3000 miles.

My Trailer Kings did last that long. We averaged between 9,000-10,000 miles a year. Our Passport was relatively light, tires were always inflated to 65 psi cold, we never exceeded 65 mph, used a high quality weight distribution hitch with integrated sway control, avoided gravel roads, stored under cover every winter and I serviced the hubs and bearings twice a year. There was never any abnormal wear or any concerns with the tires. When I replaced them due to the date code, they were just about at the wear bars, and it was the start of our 4th season so I knew the odds were stacked against me for a failure so we replaced them.

Keep in mind that there are literally millions of these tires on the road at any given time and the failure rate of Trailer Kings is no greater than the statistical average. The leading root causes of tire failure are overloading and/or under inflation, which is solely in the control of the trailer owner. My experience may not be typical, but I fully support anyone swapping them out if they are not comfortable with them at whatever mileage.

We were very happy with the Endurance LR-D that we put on the Passport. They were heavier and had a much stiffer sidewall. The Endurance LR-E on our new Cougar made it through their first partial season and are looking great right at 7,000 miles (we started late and ended early this year).

[captbozy]

I put Goodyear Endurance after a China bomb blowout.
The Goodyear tire is substantially heavier than the China tire.
I could buckle the China tire down with one hand the Goodyear was a lot tougher.

[Gkri]

Originally Posted by rlh1957

30,000 miles on trailer tires? 30,000 in 3 years? Come on!
I’ll give it maybe a slip of the finger and it’s meant to be 3000 miles.

I don't see 30,000 miles as unreasonable. We put close to 18K miles on Trailer King tires in 3 years before changing out to the Endurance Tires. The Endurance has a slightly higher speed rating so added a comfort factor when driving at 65 mph.

[jxnbbl]

Originally Posted by rlh1957

30,000 miles on trailer tires? 30,000 in 3 years? Come on!
I’ll give it maybe a slip of the finger and it’s meant to be 3000 miles.

Our first trailer had Trailer Kings on them, we owned it for 11 months and pulled it about 12-15k miles with no issue, tread was fine and traded it in for a larger trailer with Rainier tires...never made it 4-5k before we had problems and switched out to Carlisle HD which have about 12k on them and are still great.

The funny thing to me is that they I believe they all made in China.