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Old 09-13-2021, 03:11 PM   #1
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So years ago I got this generator for really cheap. It is loud and heavy, but handle what we need on our 2020 Outback 290 Bunk House.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabe...rt-by-champion

So I am exploring options. One thing I really like about the unit is the fuel capacity. It has allowed us to be an entire weekend off power without needing a refill.

I hate the weight and the noise.

I also do not want to spend $2000 on a new set up.

What other options might I explore?
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:30 PM   #2
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So years ago I got this generator for really cheap. It is loud and heavy, but handle what we need on our 2020 Outback 290 Bunk House.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabe...rt-by-champion

So I am exploring options. One thing I really like about the unit is the fuel capacity. It has allowed us to be an entire weekend off power without needing a refill.

I hate the weight and the noise.

I also do not want to spend $2000 on a new set up.

What other options might I explore?
I’d get two 2000 watt inverter gens…either predator, champion,wen And get a parallel kit…much lighter ..gives you redundancy if one generator fails..( able to power essentials) and in the colder months when you don’t need air cond you can use just one generator…much much quieter…your neighbors will be thankful…
If you would rather have just one generator..the brands mentioned have something closer to 3500 watts inverter..( I have a predator 3500). But much heavier
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I paid a little extra for a two year no questions asked replacement warranty …I’ve been happy so far with the 3500…don’t know how or if I could ever get replacement parts but knock on wood I won’t have to
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:03 PM   #4
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Probably comparable to what you already have, the Cummings Onan P4500i (Inverter generator). Not cheap, and weighs in at 100 pounds dry. But runs quiet, 3.4 gallon fuel tank can run on minimun load for 18 hours or so. It has parallel capability with a second generator to produce 50 amp, and runs everything on a 30 amp trailer, as it actually spits out about 35-37 amps. But, not cheap. Did I say, not cheap.
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:28 PM   #5
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“What other options might I explore?”

Solar! Sounds like you boondock, so solar would be great for you. There’s NOTHING I have that can’t run on 12V (except the AC, microwave or wife’s hair dryer) or alternative power source. For the 2 items that need 110v (barely use the microwave) I have a Champion dual fuel 3400/3060 inverter genny. Hot drinks? Use the stove. Wife’s curling iron? Butane cartridge curler. Watch TV? Not much, but if we do I send it from the phone to a 12V tv via a cable. I finally upgraded to 2 golf cart batteries. It’s plenty for us. Your mileage may vary.
If you do get a different genny, don’t be too concerned about run times. Just Google “(your brand) fuel extender”. There’s lots of items to buy to connect an external gas tank to the genny.
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Old 09-13-2021, 06:17 PM   #6
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I have the Predator 3500 and I think it is the bee's knees.

Though truth be told I have yet to camp with it, or even in my toy hauler at all...

So I guess my opinion isn't worth much here. Maybe I just wanted to brag about my Predator 3500?

I have run the AC with it for a few hours to make sure it works. The generator runs the AC with no issues, but when you throw in the microwave it will overload and shut off in short order.

The generator is super quiet though. It should be awesome for camping if I ever get to do any of that.
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Old 09-14-2021, 04:05 PM   #7
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We run a Generac GP 3000i. Standing next to it running I can hear a Honda 2000i running on a neighboring site. It was $749 at home Depot and a 10% coupon and free shipping dropped it to $675 (no tax in my state). We have used it several times this season and love it. At one place in the U.P. a 5er next to us was using the same exact unit and they loved it as much as us.

Weight is 60 lbs.
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:39 PM   #8
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We run a Generac GP 3000i. Standing next to it running I can hear a Honda 2000i running on a neighboring site. It was $749 at home Depot and a 10% coupon and free shipping dropped it to $675 (no tax in my state). We have used it several times this season and love it. At one place in the U.P. a 5er next to us was using the same exact unit and they loved it as much as us.

Weight is 60 lbs.
What size AC are you running with it?
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I am running a 13.5k AC unit that is unmodified. Over labor day another family member had an issue with power at their site so we ran their RV with a 15k AC with a Soft Start off our Generac with no issues until they got shore power restored.
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I run (ran - as I just traded it in) a 13.k AC modified with a softstart installed...the generator is a 2500 Champion Dual Fuel and I've run it both with propane and gasoline to test out the system. Granted when the AC is running I make sure that my battery has fully charged and never use the microwave (control this via the breakers).
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It seems to me for the cost of several of the soft start kits out there, I could buy a bit bigger generator.

Thanks for the mention of the Generac. I'll have to look into it.
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It seems to me for the cost of several of the soft start kits out there, I could buy a bit bigger generator.

Thanks for the mention of the Generac. I'll have to look into it.

Somewhat true, but there are downsides to larger generators. When we bought ours we were limited first by availability/quick delivery and really needed it to run the elec for a night or two. But the other things that came into play with the 3500 inverter/enclosed (available) were - noise level (some brands/avail went from the 50's to 60s in decibels), runtime on one tank - many are 5-6 hours vs 10+ for smaller, weight - under 50# to over 100#.



The biggest thing though with softstart is I can run everything (edit to qualify....I can run the AC when HW is on propane and can not use microwave/coffee pot/etc) when it is parked at my house on a 15A circuit.
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Somewhat true, but there are downsides to larger generators. When we bought ours we were limited first by availability/quick delivery and really needed it to run the elec for a night or two. But the other things that came into play with the 3500 inverter/enclosed (available) were - noise level (some brands/avail went from the 50's to 60s in decibels), runtime on one tank - many are 5-6 hours vs 10+ for smaller, weight - under 50# to over 100#.



The biggest thing though with softstart is I can run everything when it is parked at my house on a 15A circuit.
Eveything on 15 amps? I think you need to quantify that statement. While you may get away with running a 13.5k BTU a/c, there is no way you will have the a/c, converter charging a low battery, water heater on electric, fridge on electric simultaneously on 15 amps. The math just doesn’t add up. I'd hate for someone to think that they could spend 3 to 5 hundred bucks and think that they can "run everything" on their 15 amp outlet.
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Eveything on 15 amps? I think you need to quantify that statement. While you may get away with running a 13.5k BTU a/c, there is no way you will have the a/c, converter charging a low battery, water heater on electric, fridge on electric simultaneously on 15 amps. The math just doesn’t add up. I'd hate for someone to think that they could spend 3 to 5 hundred bucks and think that they can "run everything" on their 15 amp outlet.

Just qualified it, thank you. I do run the AC and converter together. I do let the battery converter run alone for a while as I found the initial amp draw of that to be high and reduce from 6 to 4 if the battery is 'trickle charging' vs 'quick charge' - I'm not sure why do you know?



The basic rule is AC mutually exclusive of HW and microwave. Another qualification which has been discussed in here is you can't do this on "standard" extension cords if there is any distance to the trailer location.
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I ran my 15k BTUH Air conditioner and refrigerator on my 20A circuit at home, when we first got the trailer for a few minutes just to measure amp draw.

Instead of one big generator, I keep coming back to twinning a couple of smaller ones. They look to be quieter and I would think easier to move around.
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