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10-03-2018, 11:04 AM
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Junior Member
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2019 5th hideout pkgs
Do the 2019 5th wheel hideouts come standard with the platinum , hideout luxury and cold mtn package?
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10-03-2018, 12:18 PM
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Mine came with the cold mtn. Pkg.
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2017 Hideout 308BHDS
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10-03-2018, 01:34 PM
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Location: Picacho, Az
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Just be aware, that doesn't mean you can use it in the "cold mountains". That probably means it has 1 small heat duct that blows into the underbelly semi covered, huge gaps wherever plumbing/electrical goes thru it, by coroplast (corrugated plastic) which will be good down to maybe 29 degrees & a 20 lb propane bottle that will last maybe 2 days with the furnace running.
Not saying it's a bad rv, but the "cold mountain package" is just a sales gimmick.
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10-03-2018, 03:25 PM
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Yes, you do have to use common sense. The problem is there doesn't seem to be much of that left. Ours does have a heated underbelly and two 30lb propane tanks. The chloroplast seems to be fairly well sealed on mine. We've stayed a handful of nights down into the mid twentys without issues but, again use common sense and prepare for the cold.
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2017 Hideout 308BHDS
2006 F-350 6.0L PSD CC 4X4
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02-16-2021, 10:58 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Pearland
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Cold Mountain Package GIMMICK.
Useless. Pipes still froze. Ran heater all nite, water steady drip in both sinks and cabinets doors open to allow warm air in to pipes. Filled fresh water tanks and couldn’t even use the water pump to get water from that source. In my opinion the cold mountain package is just a bunch of bs that keystone uses for advertisement. I will NEVER recommend Keystone for anything again or use any of their products. Hideout 34 FKDS.
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02-16-2021, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajd1956
Useless. Pipes still froze. Ran heater all nite, water steady drip in both sinks and cabinets doors open to allow warm air in to pipes. Filled fresh water tanks and couldn’t even use the water pump to get water from that source. In my opinion the cold mountain package is just a bunch of bs that keystone uses for advertisement. I will NEVER recommend Keystone for anything again or use any of their products. Hideout 34 FKDS.
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Then don't buy any other brand either, all manufacturers use the same gimmicky names for their RVs & will have the same results.
There's only so much insulation factor in a 2" thick wall, a 4-6" attic or so much insulation they could cram around all the tanks & plumbing, if they chose to do so, underneath to make a rv Artic proof.
Were you running the propane furnace or electric heaters? Typically the furnace has at least one 2" duct running underneath to attempt to keep the lines from freezing, electric heaters won't reach those areas.
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02-16-2021, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajd1956
Useless. Pipes still froze. Ran heater all nite, water steady drip in both sinks and cabinets doors open to allow warm air in to pipes. Filled fresh water tanks and couldn’t even use the water pump to get water from that source. In my opinion the cold mountain package is just a bunch of bs that keystone uses for advertisement. I will NEVER recommend Keystone for anything again or use any of their products. Hideout 34 FKDS.
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You might want to download the 2019 Hideout brochure and read (not just glance over) the description of the "Cold Weather Package"...
https://keystone-rv-dealer-app.cdn.p...6pg-lowres.pdf
NOWHERE does it say it's a "4 season trailer". In fact, the way it's described is this:
"WORRY FREE EXTENDED CAMPING SEASON
Interested in camping longer into the fall and getting out earlier in the spring? Hideout offers a Cold Mountain Package (slide models only) that makes this possible. An enclosed underbelly with forced heat helps prevent tanks from freezing when temperatures start to dip. Water lines are given an extra measure of protection by being run in your Hideout's flooring.
Cold Mountain Packaage is not available on LHS or single-axle models."
The Hideout line is the cheapest brand that Keystone manufacturers. It's constructed with wood frame walls, wood floor joists and wood ceiling rafters. Much of the insulation is "minimal 1" spun fiberglass" that's hand laid between the frame uprights (think lots of holes in the protection).
If you're expecting a "4 seasons trailer" on the least priced line, when it's clearly not advertised as a winter trailer (later in the fall and earlier in the spring is NOT winter).... then you're going to be disappointed with the Hideout brand. You might consider upgrading to a "midline trailer brand" (additional $10-20K) and with proper preparation, you'll likely not get as many frozen water lines and may even stay a wee bit warmer. But, even at that price range increase, you're still going to get 2" walls, single pane windows and burn as much propane as it takes to heat your 1500 sqft house, just to keep from shivering....
Bottom line: Hideout trailers aren't designed to be energy efficient or winter camping trailers.
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
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02-16-2021, 04:42 PM
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Junior Member
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Thanks John. Guess we were misinformed about quality. My daughter is usually really great about research on products and the salesman was pushing the product for FT living. Which is what she wanted for me. I just made a very expensive MISTAKE. Thanks for correcting me.
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02-17-2021, 06:01 AM
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Location: Trinidad,TX
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As stated above be sure you use the propane furnace to blow some heat down below.
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Cedar Creek Lake, Texas
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2019 Ram 2500, 4x4, Cummins diesel
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02-17-2021, 12:23 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Pearland
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That is exactly what I have been doing since before the cold weather arrived as stated in OP. But it didn’t help. Pipes froze anyway. Oh and I was dripping faucets and left cabinet doors open too. Just really sorry I made a $40k mistake on limited income for a piece of ....well you said “cheap” quality. Dealer got one over in me. Thanks.
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