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Old 03-24-2018, 07:33 PM   #1
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Camera pre wire??

2018 Passport 2920 BH came “prewired” for a camera. I’ve had trouble getting an answer from the dealer on whether the wiring gets 12v from backup circuit or from the running lights. The trailer is currently not accessible due to snow conditions otherwise I would put a meter on it. I’d like to purchase a camera before the season starts.Any thoughts appreciated. Also any recommendations on camera as it has a Furrion mount?
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:48 PM   #2
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I want a camera also. What is a Furrion mount?

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Old 03-24-2018, 07:59 PM   #3
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tadibrothers.com has a camera mount plate and power adapter to go from furion to other brand camera $29.0
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Old 03-25-2018, 01:41 AM   #4
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Welcome to the forum!!

As a rule the camera will get its power from either the running lights (common) or directly from the battery (not common). Unless your trailer came with B/U lights, that circuit isn’t used in the 7 way wiring.

Furrion is the most popular system, and having installed many, I can say they work good, and have a nice picture.
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:11 AM   #5
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Hodgy, A lot of the trailers are built with a camera pre wire and Keystone uses a mount for the Furrion camera. From the threads i’ve read actually mounting the camera appears easy.
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:12 AM   #6
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Hodgy, I responded below in the thread. Not used to this site yet
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:06 AM   #7
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Our Avalanche came pre-wired for a Furrion camera. I installed the camera, Furrion FOS48TA-BL, and it has power to it all of the time - have not found the power source yet.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:24 AM   #8
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Our Avalanche came pre-wired for a Furrion camera. I installed the camera, Furrion FOS48TA-BL, and it has power to it all of the time - have not found the power source yet.

I would be willing to bet it’s in the junction box for the 7 way. That’s where Grand Designs is putting it. There was some reports of poor quality video due to voltage drop. We have been paid by GD to re wire because even the battery disconnect doesn’t turn it off.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:52 AM   #9
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My Cougar 32RLI came with the Furrion mount and pre-wiring. I bought the camera online prior to picking it up. During the PDI, I asked Camping World to put it up, and they quoted me $135. I told them "no thanks", and did it myself in the parking lot. Procedure: unscrew the 4 screws for the cover plate, plug camera into prewire jack, put 4 screws back in. Total time was less than 5 minutes. Good picture.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:07 AM   #10
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Hodgy, A lot of the trailers are built with a camera pre wire and Keystone uses a mount for the Furrion camera. From the threads i’ve read actually mounting the camera appears easy.

I doubt that my little 1800 has a pre-wired mount, but I will have a look. It should be obvious, right ?

The poor little thing is sitting in a mound of snow so I will break trail and have a look. Come on Spring !


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I doubt that my little 1800 has a pre-wired mount, but I will have a look. It should be obvious, right ?

The poor little thing is sitting in a mound of snow so I will break trail and have a look. Come on Spring !


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If yours is not pre-wired then the bracket (FRCBRKT-BL) will be needed -
comes with Furrion FOS48TAPK-BL Manual provides installation instructions. Can be powered from the running,reverse or aux lights.

Our trailer is about 35' long and he truck is 21' long - good reception.
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If yours is not pre-wired then the bracket (FRCBRKT-BL) will be needed -
comes with Furrion FOS48TAPK-BL Manual provides installation instructions. Can be powered from the running,reverse or aux lights.

Our trailer is about 35' long and he truck is 21' long - good reception.
Odds are his 1800 Doesn't have reverse lights, and as such the 7th conductor (yellow IIRC) in the umbilical cord isn't hooked up to anything. He would have to run a wire from the junction box to the back of the trailer.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:01 AM   #13
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Post Furrion camera system

Our new 333MKS came with the Furrion mount, and I want to get the camera system also. After watching several of the youtube videos about the camera system, it's very clear there are two different versions of the the Furrion system. One is the FRC12TA-BL - called a Vision 1, which is the Backup Camera setup, and the other is the FOS48TA-B - called a Vision 2, which is the Observation/Backup Camera system. These reviews point out the FRC12TA-BL sometimes will lose signal if used when driving down the highway, and the FOS48TA-BL is more powerful. It is noted, the FRC12 is commonly the pre-installed model by dealers as it is the less expensive version. I have seen the FRC12 online from Walmart, eBAY, Amazon and others for around $245-260, while the FOS48 is usually in the $360-390 range.

I ordered a FOS48TA-B from Amazon (RVSupplies), through one of their dealers and when it arrived the unit in the box was a FRC12TA-BL. I requested a return and printed off the label(one of the nice features of Amazon). In one thought, I'd like to assume they accidently sent the wrong version, and once the wrong model number makes it's way back home, I'll receive the correct version. However, I'm a little skeptical, as I now no longer see this dealer having a Furrion Camera system of either model number. Currently waiting to reorder.
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The only one we will install is the FOS48TA-B
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Had a look, the 1800 does not have pre-wire or mount on the rear.

I would like to have a wireless camera that I could use as a hitch monitor for hook-up and then mount on the rear of the trailer while travelling.

I would use the running lights as a power source as I always drive with them on.

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That would require 2 different cameras.
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That would require 2 different cameras.

Why ?

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Old 03-25-2018, 10:00 AM   #18
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The furion camera is mounted inside a case. You would have to have another case and power. Then you would have to unscrew the 4 LITTLE screws that hold the camera and unplug it, move it to the other mounting case and secure it to that one. Or buy a second camera and mount..
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Old 03-25-2018, 10:56 AM   #19
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Thanks, that does require a bit more thinking. I was looking at one of these for $129. It has a weatherproof night vision camera. I would have a permanent mount on the rear of the trailer and move it to the tailgate when required for hook-up. 12 volt plugs at both locations using the running lights for power.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ya...2697p.html#srp

Or this one for $199.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/be...0183p.html#srp


Will have to do some more thinnin on that Baba Looey !

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Looked at the Furrion FOS48TAPK-BL again for power source:
Forest River - Marker/Clearance lights - on when lights on
Grand Design - Reverse/backup Lights - on in reverse or clearance/marker lights on
Open range - Reverse/backup lights - on when vehicle in reverse
Keystone RV - converter panel - Switch Turned on
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