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Old 08-02-2017, 11:58 AM   #61
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Im sorry we disagree, but the Goosebox is WAY more involved than just having the Anderson coupler added to it.

Exactly.

That goosebox is a coupler designed for a ball.

The Andersen clamps on the pin and sits on the ball several inches away from the pin. Those inches are a lever that tries to bend the pin off. All the tongue/pin-weight of the trailer, normally carried by the box resting on the hitch-plate, is now carried by that lever on the pin.

Obviously the pins are pretty darn strong because we don't hear about them breaking, however this is an added stress that was not part of the 5th wheel design. The Andersen introduces a "break off" stress to the pin where a traditional 5th wheel hitch normally has more of a "shear" (although a combination of the two since the bottom of the pin isn't supported).

The goosebox is making the trailer mate with a ball correctly.

I still don't like the hitch design where it is trying to pull out the goose ball from the TV.


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Old 08-02-2017, 12:18 PM   #62
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Im sorry we disagree, but the Goosebox is WAY more involved than just having the Anderson coupler added to it.
Way more involved doesn't make it more capable.

I'm still looking for evidence of failure(s) with the Andersen, not opinion. As a side note, there is evidence of failure with conventional 5th wheel hitches. Granted, there are more out there, increasing the odds, but that still doesn't mean they are inferior or better.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:19 PM   #63
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Way more involved doesn't make it more capable.

I'm still looking for evidence of failure(s) with the Andersen, not opinion. As a side note, there is evidence of failure with conventional 5th wheel hitches. Granted, there are more out there, increasing the odds, but that still doesn't mean they are inferior or better.
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And all it takes is the independent arbitrator determining the user failed to properly torque the bolts/setscrews properly, or at the appropriate intervals = declined.
Probably much like any other hitch or trailer manufacturer.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:27 PM   #65
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I still don't like the hitch design where it is trying to pull out the goose ball from the TV.


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B&W makes a lot of the turnover ball gooseneck hitches, and the B&W companion which is "traditional" 5th wheel hitch pulls up on the latch pin the same exact way the Andersen would when mounting in their hitch. I don't think that is very much of a concern if B&W engineered it that way. I sure as heck don't worry about my B&W latch pin failing when going down the road. I worry about the next guy that is going to pull in front of me.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:30 PM   #66
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Well, this horse is headed to the glue factory.... Dead, discussed and beyond redemption....

Let's all simply agree to disagree on Andersen vs fifth wheel hitches just as we do with Ford, GM and RAM.... Nobody is going to "win" and nobody is going to "lose" it's a preference each of us get to make.

This thread is closed before it gets any more argumentative.
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