Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Tech Forums > Technical Corner
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-23-2018, 03:51 PM   #21
BadmanRick
Senior Member
 
BadmanRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lehigh Acres
Posts: 176
Just a suggestion. We have the same problem. So when my wife uses the hair dryer or our toaster we shut off the airconditioner. This stops the main breaker from tripping. Hope this helps.
BadmanRick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2018, 04:08 PM   #22
coop341
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Costa Mesa
Posts: 30
I’ve never looked that closely at a 50 AMP breaker, but I believe what others have said is true that 50 amps is just 2 legs of 120VAC, which would tell me that each leg is 25 AMP. My guess is the 30A to 50A adapter is only connecting 1 leg of the 50A to your cable. If any one leg exceeds 25A on that 50A breaker, it should pop. Add the fact that the more a breaker is popped, the easier it is to pop it, they “wear” out.
coop341 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2018, 04:29 PM   #23
66joej
Senior Member
 
66joej's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: radium hot springs bc
Posts: 2,007
Actually I believe 50 amps is 2 legs of a 220 volt service making a total of 100 amps. I stand to be corrected as I'm not an electrician.
__________________

2018 Ram 3500 6.4 Harvest Edition
2018 Cougar 27RESWE
66joej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2018, 04:52 PM   #24
sourdough
Site Team
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,669
Quote:
Originally Posted by coop341 View Post
I’ve never looked that closely at a 50 AMP breaker, but I believe what others have said is true that 50 amps is just 2 legs of 120VAC, which would tell me that each leg is 25 AMP. My guess is the 30A to 50A adapter is only connecting 1 leg of the 50A to your cable. If any one leg exceeds 25A on that 50A breaker, it should pop. Add the fact that the more a breaker is popped, the easier it is to pop it, they “wear” out.
The 50A is 2 separate legs of 120VAC giving you 100A or 12K watts. The adapter takes ONE of the 50A legs and splits it going into the trailer so that you don't have 1/2 of the 120V outlets/appliances not working. It is VERY easy to blow a 30A breaker in a 50A trailer using an adapter if you're not watching what you are doing - they are 2 very different animals.
__________________
Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
sourdough is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2018, 05:03 PM   #25
xrated
Senior Member
 
xrated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: "Murvil, TN
Posts: 2,210
Quote:
Originally Posted by coop341 View Post
I’ve never looked that closely at a 50 AMP breaker, but I believe what others have said is true that 50 amps is just 2 legs of 120VAC, which would tell me that each leg is 25 AMP. My guess is the 30A to 50A adapter is only connecting 1 leg of the 50A to your cable. If any one leg exceeds 25A on that 50A breaker, it should pop. Add the fact that the more a breaker is popped, the easier it is to pop it, they “wear” out.
Nope....the 50A amp service is 50A on EACH leg, for a total of 100 amps at 120 volts. That's 12,000 watts, vs the 30 amp service which is just one leg of 120 volts, for a total of 3600 watts. So the 50 amp service will provide over three times the available amperage of what the 30A service will provide to you.
__________________
2016 F350 King Ranch Crew Cab Dually Diesel 4x4
2018 Grand Design Momentum 394M
2023 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+
Excessive payload capacity is a wonderful thing

"If it ain't Fast....It ain't Fun"
xrated is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2018, 07:54 PM   #26
Old Mustanger
Senior Member
 
Old Mustanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Rockett, TX
Posts: 480
You have some serious tripping going on if you can wear out a circuit breaker
__________________
Jerry & Debbie
with Fur Babies Sasha & Sam
2018 Alpine 3401RS
2019 Ford F350 SRW
Old Mustanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2018, 02:24 AM   #27
flybouy
Site Team
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 11,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Mustanger View Post
You have some serious tripping going on if you can wear out a circuit breaker
Roger that! I've seen them wear out from people using them to turn lights on and off (in the retail and resturant buisness when I was a director of construction) but that took years of daily use.
__________________
Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
flybouy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2018, 06:40 AM   #28
n4qpcham
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Helena, AL
Posts: 35
Everyone seems to be forgetting something: an electrical breaker does not give its fully rated amperage on output. Most will trip at 80% capacity, or 24A for a 30A breaker and 40A for a 50A breaker. Better recalculate those watts!
__________________
Jerry Rowell - N4QPC
Helena, Alabama

2004 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab LS, 6.0L,
2014 Montana High Country 318RE with Ground Control Electric Auto Leveling System
n4qpcham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2018, 08:56 AM   #29
xrated
Senior Member
 
xrated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: "Murvil, TN
Posts: 2,210
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathy & Jerry View Post
Everyone seems to be forgetting something: an electrical breaker does not give its fully rated amperage on output. Most will trip at 80% capacity, or 24A for a 30A breaker and 40A for a 50A breaker. Better recalculate those watts!
That 80% capacity is also rated for a "continuous load". A continuous load is considered to be a circuit loaded to capacity for Three or more hours.
__________________
2016 F350 King Ranch Crew Cab Dually Diesel 4x4
2018 Grand Design Momentum 394M
2023 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+
Excessive payload capacity is a wonderful thing

"If it ain't Fast....It ain't Fun"
xrated is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.