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Old 07-21-2020, 10:43 AM   #1
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Trailer King Blowout w/damage

had my first blowout the other night returning home. Trailer King ST205/75R14. Unfortunately, It did some minor damage that my extended warranty will not cover. Cosmetic damage only. Pics attached. Few questions:

- Is that repair something i could do on my own?
- I'll be replacing all 5 tires, any recommendations? 27' dual axle 5600 dry weight +500 with "stuff"
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:10 PM   #2
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Ouch! Unfortunately that sure looks familiar.

First, have you contacted your insurance company? They should cover that then you won't need to worry about "band aiding" it. Mine paid for the entire 7k repair. Did the tire damage the coroplast under the trailer? Mine did and it had to be repaired as well.

Edit: Tires. I would NOT going back with TK tires. My failure was TK as well. What year trailer is that? I would go back with Carlisle Radial HD or maybe Maxxis. I saw Goodyear Endurance comes in that size and many like those. Look at the load range on the old tires and go up one if your wheel will accept the weight and pressure. I suspect that tire/trailer combo came before the new RVIA standards. It could also have been a number of other contributing factors including age (year of trailer ).
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:18 PM   #3
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thanks Danny. Yes, it damaged the coroplast and ate into the foam floor insulation a bit. good point on the insurance. I guess i am just scared they will jack the rate up!
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:30 PM   #4
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trailer is a 2017, tires 2016. I check for proper inflation before every trip. It was extremely hot here (110 with heat index), so that could have played a factor along with tire age.

I will tell you one thing, i will be purchasing a tire monitoring systems with my new set!
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:41 PM   #5
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"I will tell you one thing, i will be purchasing a tire monitoring systems with my new set!"
Skins,
That was going to be my suggestion after reading your post. You'll notice that the tire temps can be 20 or more degrees higher then the outside temperature, so hight temps and possibly a slow leak (low pressure) was the culprit. TPMS is definitely the answer.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:48 PM   #6
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trailer is a 2017, tires 2016. I check for proper inflation before every trip. It was extremely hot here (110 with heat index), so that could have played a factor along with tire age.

I will tell you one thing, i will be purchasing a tire monitoring systems with my new set!

Sorry I failed to mention the TPMS. Thought about it but forgot to mention it.

If not aged out, the tires were just about there so that may have been a contributor....and being a TK I think they reach end of life aging in about 6 months max. That tire/trailer combo were before the revised RVIA guidelines so be sure and go up a load range if the wheels support it. I figure that will save you some grief down the road.

As far as insurance I don't recall my rates going up after that repair or if they did it was negligible. I would let them pay for it and get it all repaired correctly.
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:41 PM   #7
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thanks Danny. Yes, it damaged the coroplast and ate into the foam floor insulation a bit. good point on the insurance. I guess i am just scared they will jack the rate up!

I am guessing you have no idea what camper insurance deductible is. Mine is now $425 so if you do file a claim, keep in mind that you will still be out of pocket for the deductible and they will likely count the insurance pay out against you and your rate may go up.
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:03 PM   #8
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i do. Unfortunately, mine is $500.
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:14 PM   #9
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Hi Steve.
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It all depends how handy you are. I have seen worse.
I would cut out the bad luan that's left as straight as possible in order to cut a piece of 1/4" plywood to fill it's place. I would use spray adhesive as directed by can, caulk any divots or cavities. Let that set. Trim a piece of darco, spray the wood with the adhesive again and lay darco on that. let that set. wipe area clean with a degreaser, rinse, and let dry. Tape your edges with the scrim tape and heat with a hair dryer or heat gun at a lower setting and use a roller to press the seams.

As far as beefing up that area, everyone has a theory on that. I will be adding checker plate in the two rear wheel areas. Although the tires are brand new, if something should happen again, maybe the checker plate will ensure it's worth making an insurance claim.
You can buy the darco and scrim tape from amazon.
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I didn't see how much foam was gouged out, mine hit the wood of the floor in the coach but did not penetrate it. Also trim the foam as squarely as possible, use the spray adhesive to attach foam.
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Trailer kings age like dogs.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:01 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info Dan. There were a few tiny pieces of foam inside my trailer near my bump out. I need to figure out the extent of that. I would really like to tackle it myself, but just have to see.

What is darco?
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Darco is the mesh fabric in the tops of the wheel wells that's all torn up.

Dan has given good advice on trying to make those repairs. I would go further to say that the inside of the wheel wells needs some sort of reinforcement. There are threads and posts that relate to that so you may want to do a search. The Darco is, IMO, an inappropriate material to cover the inside of a wheel well or anything else exposed to the elements.

You can make the repairs to the wheel well. What about the coroplast you said was damaged? Mine was torn, gas line in the slide cut along with power. They wanted to "cut/tape" the damaged coroplast. I insisted I wanted it back like new, and unbelievably, Geico paid to have the entire bottom (coroplast) replaced. I figured someone doing that work instead of me, having all new piece parts etc. was worth far more than the $500 deductible. I didn't worry about a price increase if it came....and we never noticed that it did.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:26 PM   #13
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I have the same size tire 205/75R14 and can not find a E rated tire, only D rated for this size.
Endurance and Carlisle do not have a E rated tire. Im am running TK's for now, they are only 1 year old. I will replace them soon with a D rated I guess.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:57 PM   #14
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great info Danny thanks. I have Geico as well and submitted a claim. We'll see what the adjuster has to say.

I do need to clarify though. The coroplast is fine. The darco was shredded. there is about a foot and half border on both sides of the camper above the wheels that is about 5 inches higher than the cloroplast underbelly. I may cut into it this weekend. If it hasn't damaged the camper floor, i should be able to replace that 12" x 36" section with foam, thin particle board (which i also see) then new darco. I also plan to put in diamond plate on both sides to protect from future blowouts. I'll keep you posted.
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good info Gobirds. I will be considering both of those tires.
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I have the same size tire 205/75R14 and can not find a E rated tire, only D rated for this size.
Endurance and Carlisle do not have a E rated tire. Im am running TK's for now, they are only 1 year old. I will replace them soon with a D rated I guess.
Thanks Danny,

Dave,
I replaced my LRC trailer kings (max PSI 50) on my travel trailer with the Carlisle radial trail hd LRD (max PSI 65), night and day. No issues. No blowouts to either tire.

On my 5th wheel I went from a LRD trailer king (max PSI 65) to the carlisle radial trail hd LRE (max PSI 80), again, night and day. I did have a blowout on the highway going from dealership to tire store. I am now not worried about another blowout but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

Steve,
When you move up one load range a blowout will produce more force and carnage. That piece of checker plate might do diddly against that 80 psi tire blowout. If I had the time, place, and means I would have fabricated a heavier gauge steel well to slide into the existing well after removing the wood and foam butting it up to the coach floor. Welded to the frame and bolted to the aluminum frame of the coach. I know I would have lost a whole section of R7 insulation potential, I don't winter camp.
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Old 07-22-2020, 05:42 AM   #17
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i hear ya Dan. The thicker gauge metal guard would be awesome, but i can't weld. I'll have to opt for the tire pressure monitoring system/diamond plate and hope that combo will 1. prevent a blowout and 2. minimize damage should one occur.

why do we buy these things again? lol. Oh yeah, for the kids, for the kids...
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Goodyear Endurance has a second option.

205/75R14
Load Range D
2039 LBS per tire

or

215/75R14
Load Range D
2205 LBS per tire

The 215 is about an half inch taller than the 205, so if you have the clearance this may be an option to consider.

Here is a link.
https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire...5R14/225-70R14
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In the mid 1970's I was driving my DW (before we were married), her father and brother back from a visit in Maine. He had an early 1070's Ford Econoline van. He had bought brand new Goodyear steel belted radials put on for the trip. This was when the radials were a new to the market tires.

Around Boston I was driving around 70 m.p.h. when the passenger side rear tire let loose. After crossing about six lanes twice I got it wrestled down to a stop. That rear fender was folded up about 6" above the wheel well and the corner of the rear bumper was crumpled up like a beer can after an arm wrestler is finished with it.

I don't think much less than armor plate will stop a flapping tread at highway speed.
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Thanks gobirds. So, i can go from 205 to 215 as long as i have room (which i do)? Is there anything else i need to consider before upgrading to 215?
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