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05-17-2020, 10:06 AM
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Springdale 189 6gallon to 10 gallon?
Anyone do this upgrade? Will it fit under the kitchen cab? O measured it and seems possible a bit tight but it seems it may work?
Tyia
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05-17-2020, 10:08 AM
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I believe you will have to cut out a bigger opening in the exterior skin. You may run into frame work that will hinder a clean install.
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05-17-2020, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
I believe you will have to cut out a bigger opening in the exterior skin. You may run into frame work that will hinder a clean install.
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Yes, I figured some sheet metal work.
Just wondered if anyone tried this?
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05-17-2020, 12:05 PM
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There is little difference in the 10 gallon and the 6 gallon water heater. The recovery rate is the same for both (17.1 GMH) the only difference is the first hour of water at 60F rise is 21 gallons with the 10 gallon model and 17.1 gallons with the 6 gallon water heater. Four gallons of hot water doesn't go very far with a showerhead flow rate of 3 GPM...
There is significant difference in size of the two units, which would mean some substantial frame opening modifications to install a 10 gallon water heater in place of the current 6 gallon model.
Have you considered a "constant flow/demand water heather"??? You can buy one that fits your existing opening using the existing gas line and plumbing fittings. That option would provide you with "endless hot water" (at least until your propane tanks run dry) and would be substantially less work to switch out.
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05-17-2020, 02:23 PM
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1- Turn on both gas & electric on your 6 gallon for quicker recovery.
2- Add an Oxygenics shower head with the shut off.
3- Explain to all showering to turn off the shower head between lathering/rinse, don't leave the water running continuously & limit shower times.
4- Send the ones that must have a 30+ minute shower to the park bathhouse where there's unlimited hot water & no holding tank to worry about filling.
Total cost $50+/- for the shower head, labor time about 2 minutes.
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05-17-2020, 02:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
There is little difference in the 10 gallon and the 6 gallon water heater. The recovery rate is the same for both (17.1 GMH) the only difference is the first hour of water at 60F rise is 21 gallons with the 10 gallon model and 17.1 gallons with the 6 gallon water heater. Four gallons of hot water doesn't go very far with a showerhead flow rate of 3 GPM...
There is significant difference in size of the two units, which would mean some substantial frame opening modifications to install a 10 gallon water heater in place of the current 6 gallon model.
Have you considered a "constant flow/demand water heather"??? You can buy one that fits your existing opening using the existing gas line and plumbing fittings. That option would provide you with "endless hot water" (at least until your propane tanks run dry) and would be substantially less work to switch out.
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They use alot of LP tho.
Units are a bit pricey?
Thought was 10 vs 6, 4 gallons is alot more water almost by 90 percent.
But I guess it's not worth the trouble.
Thanks for the input.
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05-17-2020, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
Turn on both gas & electric on your 6 gallon for quicker recovery.
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I'm ordering a new element. The old one doesn't work, and when it does it trips the breaker. I get barley like warm water on electric only.
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05-17-2020, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkonrai
They use alot of LP tho.
Units are a bit pricey?
Thought was 10 vs 6, 4 gallons is alot more water almost by 90 percent.
But I guess it's not worth the trouble.
Thanks for the input.
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I think the math of 6 out of 10 is 60%, so to get to 10 would be a 40% increase. Real world, I think the recommendations already given would reap larger benefits for the expense and time.
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05-17-2020, 03:14 PM
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I agree with the above recommendations. I don't recall seeing a water heater that wasn't in a specifically built enclosure that would require a LOT of work to rebuild and who knows how many things impacted. Get both heat sources going and manage the water usage and you should be a lot better off.
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05-20-2020, 10:41 AM
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Update.
Element was gone. Running both, LP and electric water heater runs great!
Going to have a test run and see how it runs. So far after a flush and new element it shuts off in 10 or 15 minutes. Took 30 minutes before. Yay
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