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08-13-2021, 10:51 AM
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How do I bypass converter?
How do I turn off the converter in a 2006 Cougar 5th wheel EFS 281? I’m using solar to charge the batteries and just installed an inverter.
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08-13-2021, 11:54 AM
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Not sure why you'd need to "bypass" the converter?
Are you planning to run everything from the inverter? If so, you'd be looking at installing a by-pass switch to power all your 110vac accessories.
What is your inverter wired to now?
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08-13-2021, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canonman
Not sure why you'd need to "bypass" the converter?
Are you planning to run everything from the inverter? If so, you'd be looking at installing a by-pass switch to power all your 110vac accessories.
What is your inverter wired to now?
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Solar powered batteries.
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08-13-2021, 12:59 PM
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How do I bypass converter?
The converter and the solar will charge the batteries simultaneously, you only will reduce your charging by bypassing the converter. They work together very seamlessly.
That said, there should be a 110v breaker that will turn off just the converter. This will also force all your 12v stuff to put more strain on the batteries when you’re plugged into shore power.
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08-13-2021, 04:14 PM
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OK, you have solar powered batteries. I guess mine are solar powered too when I hook the solar up to them.
The batteries power the inverter in my set up and the inverter powers the TV. That's all I have the inverter installed for. I also use the inverter's USB face plate ports to charge the phones and laptop.
Assuming your batteries are connected to the input side of the inverter, what is connected to the output side?
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08-13-2021, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Khepri
How do I turn off the converter in a 2006 Cougar 5th wheel EFS 281? I’m using solar to charge the batteries and just installed an inverter.
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If your converter is a stand alone, look for the breaker that says converter, if it’s integrated in the power distribution center, look for the black lead to a breaker and remove it. If the converter is integrated, it usually shares a breaker so you can’t just flip the breaker.
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08-14-2021, 03:16 AM
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Got it
We must’ve found the right switch in the fuse box last night. The inverter’s alarm hasn’t gone off.
Thank you everyone! You’ve been very helpful.
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08-14-2021, 06:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GHen
The converter and the solar will charge the batteries simultaneously, you only will reduce your charging by bypassing the converter. They work together very seamlessly.
That said, there should be a 110v breaker that will turn off just the converter. This will also force all your 12v stuff to put more strain on the batteries when you’re plugged into shore power.
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I have been unplugging my solar panels from the charge controller when connected to shore power. I was concerned that having converter and solar charging batteries simultaneously could over charge. From what you said, it won't hurt anything leaving both charging systems running at the same time? How is that possible?
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08-14-2021, 07:43 AM
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the other way is to put in a auto change over switch so your inverter powers the whole trailer. if wired properly it should automaticly turn off your converter when it is switched over to inverter supply.
Steve
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08-14-2021, 12:48 PM
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In my case and I just have the stock converter, the converter takes the batteries to 80-90%, then the solar takes them to 100% and shuts down and maintains.
I have had 300 watts of solar for the last three years, works flawlessly and batteries seldom need water meaning they are not being overcharged.
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08-15-2021, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hblick48
I have been unplugging my solar panels from the charge controller when connected to shore power. I was concerned that having converter and solar charging batteries simultaneously could over charge. From what you said, it won't hurt anything leaving both charging systems running at the same time? How is that possible?
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It wont hurt anything to have the solar charging along with the converter. They both stop charging when the batteries are charged.
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08-15-2021, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryUT
It wont hurt anything to have the solar charging along with the converter. They both stop charging when the batteries are charged.
Gary
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Gary: thanks for clearing up my uncertainty.
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08-15-2021, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hblick48
I have been unplugging my solar panels from the charge controller when connected to shore power. I was concerned that having converter and solar charging batteries simultaneously could over charge. From what you said, it won't hurt anything leaving both charging systems running at the same time? How is that possible?
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Both your solar battery charger and the converter use the battery voltage to determine how much charging voltage to apply to the battery bank. They both work independently and won't overcharge the battery/batteries. You can leave both running together.
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08-16-2021, 02:35 AM
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???? I guess I’m confused. The wires from my converter to the batteries also are used to feed the batteries back to the 12v fuse distribution panel to power all the 12v (lights). I believe anyway.
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08-16-2021, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishsizzle
???? I guess I’m confused. The wires from my converter to the batteries also are used to feed the batteries back to the 12v fuse distribution panel to power all the 12v (lights). I believe anyway.
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Yes that is correct. The wiring that charges the batteries from the converter also provides the batteries 12vdc to run the lights, etc when you are not connected to shore power.
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08-16-2021, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cimriver
Yes that is correct. The wiring that charges the batteries from the converter also provides the batteries 12vdc to run the lights, etc when you are not connected to shore power.
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Ok, I guess I’m missing what the OP was trying to accomplish.
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08-16-2021, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cimriver
Both your solar battery charger and the converter use the battery voltage to determine how much charging voltage to apply to the battery bank. They both work independently and won't overcharge the battery/batteries. You can leave both running together.
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They won't "overcharge the battery" but if Hblick48 has a WFCO converter/charger, it senses "voltage on the line" to determine charging status, so if the battery output is 11.3 VDC (90% discharged) and the solar controller (on even a 10 watt solar panel) is producing 13.6 VDC, the WFCO will "sense the 13.6 volts and will not "turn on the charger to charge the battery"...
In other words, "dual charging with a WFCO will shut down the WFCO when the other charger output is sensed by the WFCO monitoring system. That system is designed to prevent "overcharging the battery" when its output is "fully charged"....
With "manual, always charging at full capacity" chargers, you can "use both to increase the charge amps. With automatic (voltage sensing chargers) any voltage on the line is sensed and the charger output is regulated based on that "line voltage"......
In short, if the solar system puts 13.6 VDC on the battery terminals, it'll shut down the WFCO. Depending on the solar controller, if the WFCO puts 13.6 VDC on the battery terminals, it'll shut down the solar system charging....
It really gets "complicated" when both sense the other's voltage and both shut down....
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