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Old 08-01-2021, 08:46 AM   #21
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Two separate questions. What is this? (Hanging from wires,) and how to remove the cover of switch below to install a dimmer in its place.
Woohoo! Who's on first!? LOL 😂
It's a remote temperature sensor. The cover on the switch can be removed by prying on it from the back.
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Old 08-01-2021, 09:10 AM   #22
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I have two of those in my Cougar, they turn the lights on and off. One in the bed area, and one next to the refrigerator.
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Old 08-01-2021, 09:15 AM   #23
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It's a remote temperature sensor. The cover on the switch can be removed by prying on it from the back.
Knew that, Thanks. Was being silly. ��
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Old 08-01-2021, 11:17 AM   #24
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Two separate questions. What is this? (Hanging from wires,) and how to remove the cover of switch below to install a dimmer in its place.
Woohoo! Who's on first!? LOL 😂
Boy your easy to amuse! The first question “what is this?” Was IMMEDIATELY and CORRECTLY answered with the second post…I simply then expanded on the post (hijacked) because of the awesome picture and the need to get the answer from the 2nd poster …I posted IMMEDIATELY after the 2nd post.
Really not that weird or funny but I’ve heard of people rolling on the floor to “Joani loves chachi”…(insert laugh track)

Glad I could entertain you
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Old 08-01-2021, 11:21 AM   #25
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Was just reacting to all the assorted comments. Sorry, I’ll keep my “silliness “ to myself. 🤐
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Old 08-01-2021, 11:22 AM   #26
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Was just reacting to all the assorted comments. Sorry, I’ll keep my “silliness “ to myself. 🤐
Lol no my friend it’s all good…I’m not mad. The world NEEDS more silliness
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Old 08-02-2021, 05:31 AM   #27
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There is a "known issue" with the In-Command system interface with some air conditioner/furnace operations. Below 40F or above 90F the In-Command system "locks out HVAC controls".
What a joke. The units sole purpose is to heat or cool the trailer but has a range like this? Glad they are fixing it but it never should have been released with such poor programming. Give me good old reliable regular controls any day. Ahh "technology"- a wonderful idea (when it works)
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Old 08-02-2021, 05:36 AM   #28
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What a joke. The units sole purpose is to heat or cool the trailer but has a range like this? Glad they are fixing it but it never should have been released with such poor programming. Give me good old reliable regular controls any day. Ahh "technology"- a wonderful idea (when it works)
They even have it as a FAQ on there website so it must be a known bug that they never imagined when designing the system…maybe they ordered thermistors that are within the 40-100 range because the “engineers” thought “nobody is going to camp outside those parameters”…they failed to realize when turning the system on when you get to a campsite the temperature inside very well could be outside the design limits
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:50 AM   #29
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Ain't convenience electronics grand. Sure glad I don't have any in my camper. In Command sounds more like Out of Control at times!
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Old 08-02-2021, 07:49 AM   #30
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What a joke. The units sole purpose is to heat or cool the trailer but has a range like this? Glad they are fixing it but it never should have been released with such poor programming. Give me good old reliable regular controls any day. Ahh "technology"- a wonderful idea (when it works)
It might be "a joke" but it's a "real joke". Either you can work around "the joke" or you can "sweat and bitch about the joke". Either way, blame it on whatever makes you feel better about reality. Bottom line is this: If you don't devise your own work around or use one that's proven to mitigate the known issue, you're going to have an inoperable HVAC system and a hot or cold trailer when you exceed the limits of the system...

I remember a space shuttle that never should have been released with a leaking O-ring in a fuel transfer valve, but, we all watched as it exploded just after liftoff. Things happen, even in "rocket science", and we all know Keystone ain't "rocket science".....
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Old 08-02-2021, 02:34 PM   #31
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What a joke. The units sole purpose is to heat or cool the trailer but has a range like this? Glad they are fixing it but it never should have been released with such poor programming. Give me good old reliable regular controls any day. Ahh "technology"- a wonderful idea (when it works)
The bug isn't in the inCommand system, it's in a specific model of Dometic HVAC control interface box located in the A/C that was the model selected for many Keystone products around 2019. The reason the syndrome is in their FAQ is because hundreds of people called them about this behavior. Swapping out the HVAC interface for pretty much any other compatible Dometic model fixes the problem immediately. Unless you live in a very narrow climate zone, you usually discover this failure well in time to have it fixed under warranty.
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:29 AM   #32
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The two screw thermistor has nothing to do with the toggle light switch. Thermistor relays ambient temperature of that room to thermostat.
The switch will either turn that room on and off or another nearby light.

The switch escutcheon plate it loosens with a small blade or screwdriver. It just pops off and snaps back on. The switch is screwed to wall.
I had mine off because in a dark room that blue light is annoying. I blocked the light out so it doesn’t shine through.

I suspect the switch in bedroom is for bedroom lights and the one by the kitchen turns on all LR & Kitchen areas. Ofcourse you main panel for coach the In Command system controls lights as well.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:24 AM   #33
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so if there is remote zones.

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does the system have servo controlled dampers to accomplish the temp variation ??
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:38 AM   #34
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Two separate questions. What is this? (Hanging from wires,) and how to remove the cover of switch below to install a dimmer in its place.
Woohoo! Who's on first!? LOL 😂
No rocket science here.
There are two different things in the photo.

One with the screws out is a thermo sensor for that room or zone. What isn’t shown is the little snap on cover grid that goes over it.

The blue led backlit switch is a light switch. Could be for that one room or it could be a three way light switch that has a mate back down the way.

You could put a dimmer switch on and see if it works. Not sure if it works when that light switch goes through in command system.

It will either work or not work. Remember LED lights only work wired one way unlike some DC or AC that light no matter which way you wire.

No loss, because there is always somewhere you can use a dimmer switch.

There aren’t any electrically or thermostatically controlled dampers in RV’s.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:59 AM   #35
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so if there is remote zones.

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Ha ha! This brings back memories of my first employer. Honeywell's very first product was the "automatic damper flapper" (1886).

In most RVs, there is typically one thermistor per A/C unit, so no airflow control needed. If you have "two zones" in your rig, it's typically because you have two A/C units.
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