Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Tech Forums > Keystone Questions
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 01-02-2020, 09:44 AM   #1
locogk28
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: macon
Posts: 20
under belly sag

we just purchased a 2018 keystone hide out 299rlds. where the black tank is the under belly is sagging what is causing this and could my tank me broken at mounting points ?
locogk28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 10:04 AM   #2
cliff
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 58
There are a couple of causes. i had one where the valve leaked and sagged the chloroplast. That's probably the easiest to fix. Another is the black tank or its vent is leaking. Then, maybe the bolts. You got to open the under belly to see. It ain't no fun. I used a piece of sheet aluminum when I was done and sealed the edges with acid cure slicone.
cliff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 04:03 PM   #3
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,989
Before you go "opening the underbelly looking for problems that don't exist" you might want to do some comparisons to other trailers....

Coroplast will "droop in the middle" on "perfectly normal trailers", so without knowing what you're describing and whether it's a slight bow in the middle or a "nearly dragging the ground and obviously filled with water or XXX"

Don't jump on the bandwagon of "It's a problem and I'm screwed" until you compare it to other trailers. My coroplast has "sagged in the middle" since the trailer was new and it's no worse than it was when we took delivery in 2013.....
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 04:46 PM   #4
sourdough
Site Team
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,678
John is right. If you have some "drooping", until you see something that indicates there is a cause I wouldn't go tearing up everything to find there was no reason to do it. Mine droops and has for years. When it did spring a leak from the galley holding tank it conveniently leaked right through a screw hole and alerted me.
__________________
Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
sourdough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 07:00 PM   #5
bsmith0404
Senior Member
 
bsmith0404's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Las Cruces
Posts: 4,665
Mine also has a sag. A lot of it is caused by the insulation in the belly. The colorplast will compress the insulation near the edges where it’s screwed to the frame, but as you get further away from the screws, the coorplast saga instead of compressing the insulation. You can always use a small drill bit to place a small hole in the center of the sag and see if anything comes out.
__________________

Brent
2013 Alpine 3500RE
2019 Silverado 2500HD Duramax
U.S. Air Force Retired (25 yrs)
bsmith0404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2020, 10:45 AM   #6
Macgregor
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Ontario
Posts: 15
Be careful if you are going to do any drilling or trying to put a screw in to support the sag. The tanks may be right against the coroplast. There are no supports for the coroplast in the tank areas on my trailer and it does sag a bit.
Macgregor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2020, 12:41 PM   #7
Badbart56
Senior Member
 
Badbart56's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: USA and Canada
Posts: 872
Make sure there is no liquid causing it to sag. I overfilled one of my grey tanks because the gauge didn't work and it over flowed from the vent. The RV technician simply drilled a hole in the middle allowing it to drain. I keep better track of how many showers between draining the tank now!
__________________


2010 FZ 405

2011 F350 6.7 Dually w/Banks Power making 510 hp and 1065 ft/lbs torque
Badbart56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2020, 04:38 PM   #8
bsmith0404
Senior Member
 
bsmith0404's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Las Cruces
Posts: 4,665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbart56 View Post
Make sure there is no liquid causing it to sag. I overfilled one of my grey tanks because the gauge didn't work and it over flowed from the vent. The RV technician simply drilled a hole in the middle allowing it to drain. I keep better track of how many showers between draining the tank now!
I leave the gray shower valve open because that tank fills too fast. I’ll dump the galley gray after the black to help flush “stuff” out of the hose.
bsmith0404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2020, 08:07 AM   #9
mtofell
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Oregon
Posts: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbart56 View Post
Make sure there is no liquid causing it to sag.
I agree with this - you should be able to feel if its holding water which would rule out a few possibilities.
mtofell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2020, 08:45 AM   #10
flybouy
Site Team
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 11,743
I started to get "underbelly sag" when I hit my late 50's. Oh, you're talking about the trailer, never mind!
__________________
Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
flybouy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2020, 12:13 PM   #11
flrtrader
Member
 
flrtrader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Dayton
Posts: 52
I've heard there are kind of easy replacement material for this underbelly fabric. Has anyone installed that kind of "Hard" replacement?

Thanks
flrtrader is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2020, 01:29 PM   #12
Jerry Bies
Junior Member
 
Jerry Bies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Belleville, Mich
Posts: 7
I agree with badbart56, drill a 1/4 or 3/8 hole in the middle of sag,see what comes out. Have you lost any hydraulic oil, one of my hyd lines was 1/4 turn loose that found its way into the sag. I cut the underneath cover big enough to fit my head in to find the drip. I cut access hole on 3 sides and used aluminum duct tape to seal covering.
Used black spray paint to cover up aluminum tape. Ok now
__________________
2018 Ford F-350 Limited 4 x 4 , 2019 Alpine 3701
Jerry Bies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2020, 05:06 AM   #13
KRumm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 122
If it bothers you you could do a couple things... open it up and in the middle install a piece of wood strut that you can put a screw in the middle, or drop a 2x4 piece from the floor in the middle to the height of the belly giving you a screw spot in the middle or without opening up the belly add an aluminum strut across the sag area and secure it on each side...

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Steelworks-...hannel/3058183
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	41FE6EF4-B43D-40C1-8FB1-39FFC11ACAC2.jpeg
Views:	429
Size:	176.2 KB
ID:	25045   Click image for larger version

Name:	B28DDA4A-B0F9-45F7-8767-06BBAA43B2C4.jpeg
Views:	809
Size:	50.8 KB
ID:	25046  
KRumm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2020, 06:09 AM   #14
chunker
Senior Member
 
chunker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Hartford AL
Posts: 439
First I would get under the trailer and push up on the coroplast. It naturally sags between the mounting points. Normally it will push up with little resistance. If it's hard against something, like an unlikely tank sagging, there will be considerable resistance to pushing up. Randomly drilling a hole in the coroplast could result in a face full of what ever liquid has collected there and potential drilling into a tank with even more catastrophic results. IF you feel resistance when pushing gently up on the coroplast, remove some side screws and bracket to view it from the side. You've received a package or bought a produce with a warning label, "DO NOT CUT". That warning is for a reason and should apply to areas around the tanks. Look before you leap/cut/drill.
__________________
2021 Omni SX32
2012 Crusader 355BHQ (girl friends)
2020 Ram 1500 Laramie 4WD, toad
2019 Harley Davidson Heritage Classic 114 (the toy)
chunker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.