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Old 10-17-2021, 08:43 AM   #1
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First (hopefully last) 5th Wheel

Wife and I just bought our 3rd (hopefully final) trailer. Started out with a 23' bumper pull no slide-outs, then went to 34' bumper pull with one slide-out. Just bought a 2021 3620LBH and pull it with a 2011 F-250.

Looking forward to meeting folks here and learning much as we hope to transition to full-time in the next few years.
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Old 10-17-2021, 09:09 AM   #2
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Wife and I just bought our 3rd (hopefully final) trailer. Started out with a 23' bumper pull no slide-outs, then went to 34' bumper pull with one slide-out. Just bought a 2021 3620LBH and pull it with a 2011 F-250.

Looking forward to meeting folks here and learning much as we hope to transition to full-time in the next few years.
Welcome to the forum, nice looking 5er.
There are many on this forum that encourage you to tow/carry within the capability of your TV.
Your 5er’s dry pin of. 2,185#, and likely as high as 3,220#, I doubt that your F250 has that much payload.
Just concerned about the safety of you and your family.
You might consider a trip to the nearest scales to see how your numbers work out.
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Old 10-17-2021, 09:31 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forum, nice looking 5er.
There are many on this forum that encourage you to tow/carry within the capability of your TV.
Your 5er’s dry pin of. 2,185#, and likely as high as 3,220#, I doubt that your F250 has that much payload.
Just concerned about the safety of you and your family.
You might consider a trip to the nearest scales to see how your numbers work out.
As they should and... Well, shoot.

I just looked in the manual before buying and it says fifth wheel towing capacity of 16k. What would correspond to pin weight or how is it calculated?

Thanks!
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Old 10-17-2021, 09:52 AM   #4
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As they should and... Well, shoot.

I just looked in the manual before buying and it says fifth wheel towing capacity of 16k. What would correspond to pin weight or how is it calculated?

Thanks!

Your manual, the brochures and the salesmen never speak of "payload" because it would hamper sales. The max tow numbers are unrealistic but sound good to tell prospective buyers.

Critical numbers are gvwr (gross vehicle weight rating), carrying capacity (payload) and gawr's (gross axle weight ratings front/rear). Simply, your payload is your gvwr minus the weight of your truck. Without scales you have to "guesstimate". Do that by using the payload listed on the yellow/black sticker inside the driver door then take the gross vehicle weight (gvwr) of the trailer and multiply by 22/23% to get estimated pin weight.

Your trailer has a gvw or 14,000lbs. 22% of that is 3080lbs. 23% is 3220lbs. That is ONLY the weight on the pin of the trailer. You then have to add the hitch, say 150lbs., people (with bunkhouse assume kids) 600lbs., tools and misc. = 200lb. We'll take the high pin estimate to be safe - 3220 plus the other items = 4170lbs. you need for payload in the truck. Your 250 won't approach that and it would be a stretch for a SRW 1 ton. Safety is a top priority, particularly with a family.

Edit: Another weight limitation I didn't mention is gcvwr (gross combined vehicle weight rating). It is the total of the gvwrs of the truck and trailer. In your situation it probably won't be a consideration but it can be; all of the critical weights are important. They all must be adhered to, it's not a pick and choose or "get one and you're OK" scenario.
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Hello and welcome!

Congrats on the purchase of that new 5er!

Enjoy, and safe travels!
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