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03-05-2016, 06:29 PM
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Excellent info.
As usual it's a cost vs. reputation thing.
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03-05-2016, 07:49 PM
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nellie1289, Howdy;
Thanks for doing the second test, speaks well of them all.
hankaye
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03-06-2016, 04:43 AM
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nellie1289,
What all where you able to operate on generator power from the champion? I am curious if not hooked to shore power will it run the ac along with lights and the water pump? Have you had a chance to do testing in this type of situation?
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03-06-2016, 06:26 AM
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Gaduv. My trailer is currently in the shop for the awning so I haven live tested it yet but all the reviews I have read say it would do that no problem. I did hookup a coffee maker and blow dryer today to it and it ran both no problem which kills the Honda (overload). May be a few days till I get trailer back. Read the reviews on Costco in meantime. I will say it is much quieter than some of the complaints on noise I read.
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03-06-2016, 01:34 PM
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So I ran an "advertised" 1500 watt space heater:
http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-5307-Osc...s=lasko+heater
and an advertised "1600 watt hairdryer" at full blast.
And the champion ran it no problem. For what its worth. Smart throttle worked pretty well too.
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03-07-2016, 12:44 AM
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One thing to keep in mind is the human ear characteristic that low frequency and high frequency sounds are generally less "heard" than mid-range frequency sounds. Three tones at different frequencies at the same sound pressure level will sound louder or softer than the others depending on that feature of human ears and also if you have any frequency specific hearing loss.
Most gensets end up sounding similar in tone/frequency but when they don't, the measured dB level of the actually sound pressure may not be the only factor.
In accurate measurements this feature is known as the "A-weighting scale".
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03-07-2016, 08:07 AM
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I still like the idea of two, 2000W generators. Easy to lug around, especially when I (usually) only need one for the Keurig or charging batteries. Running one 2000W is quieter, and it burns less gas.
FWIW, the Costco purchased, Smarter Tools inverter 2000's with Yamaha engines are still working well. While I haven't seen them at Costco recently, they are still available at Walmart, Home Depot and Amazon.
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03-07-2016, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert185
I still like the idea of two, 2000W generators. Easy to lug around, especially when I (usually) only need one for the Keurig or charging batteries. Running one 2000W is quieter, and it burns less gas.
FWIW, the Costco purchased, Smarter Tools inverter 2000's with Yamaha engines are still working well. While I haven't seen them at Costco recently, they are still available at Walmart, Home Depot and Amazon.
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I can see that too, but I think the tipping point for many people is being able to power your a/c without running 2 which is what makes this 2800 appealing to some
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03-07-2016, 08:54 AM
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I just recieved the Champion 2800/3100, hope its all that the reviews report. I went with the one because we live in the south and we will probably need the 15,000 BTU A/C more often than not. We will do very little boondocking, mostly just while traveling and stopping for an over night, otherwise we will always stay where we have full hookups so the need for a generator should be minimal but when we do need it, we will need our A/C. There just didnt seem to be much advantage for us to have two in our situation.
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03-07-2016, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nellie1289
I can see that too, but I think the tipping point for many people is being able to power your a/c without running 2 which is what makes this 2800 appealing to some
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Yeah, either way involves compromise. We find ourselves using one 2000W more often than two. If we need two, then we have more than 2800W available. It's nice to have a selection so everyone can have what they want/need/can afford.
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03-07-2016, 03:13 PM
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Well, I pulled the trigger last night. Told the wife I'm tired of thinking about it. My needs are for 2 gens that I can easily move around. Also wanted an extended run kit.
So, hello Camping World. Two Honda 2000 invertors, 2 theft deterring handle kits, one parallel kit with RV plug and 2 covers. Then to Amazon for the IPI extended run kit.
Visa is smoking.
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03-07-2016, 04:48 PM
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So I got my trailer back from shop today and plugged in the new 2800 champion generator, fired up the ac, tested it out etc.
I was very impressed, it didn't even move off low idle when I plugged it into the trailer. The only thing on inside was a few lights, and the bathroom fan. When I fired up the a/c. it grabbed a gear and seamlessly went to a higher rpm. again. No issues whatsoever. With AC running and sitting 2 feet away from generator 59 db was the reading and from 25 feet away 24 db. It was backed against my house so there was probably even some reverberation. Anyway, I am totally impressed. Hopefully this unit holds up over the long haul.
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03-07-2016, 05:04 PM
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Nellie, what size is you A/C.
Appreciate your comparison, very interesting and informative.
I have a 15,000 BTU and from the reviews, looked like I would have no problem with the Champion 2800/3100. Looks like they were right.
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03-07-2016, 05:34 PM
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Mine is 13500 but looks like you will have no issue with 15000 either
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03-07-2016, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gearhead
Well, I pulled the trigger last night. Told the wife I'm tired of thinking about it. My needs are for 2 gens that I can easily move around. Also wanted an extended run kit.
So, hello Camping World. Two Honda 2000 invertors, 2 theft deterring handle kits, one parallel kit with RV plug and 2 covers. Then to Amazon for the IPI extended run kit.
Visa is smoking.
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If I hadn't run into the irresistible deal at Costco last year on those Smarter Tools 2KW, I would have done the same thing. No one can argue your choice.
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03-07-2016, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
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If I hadn't run into the irresistible deal at Costco last year on those Smarter Tools 2KW, I would have done the same thing. No one can argue your choice.
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It was just so....painful....$$
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03-07-2016, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gearhead
It was just so....painful....$$
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A lot less painful than line #3 in your signature.
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03-08-2016, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
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A lot less painful than line #3 in your signature.
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Indeed it was!
But....I got a decent price for the Corvette, selling to a 23 yr. old, and a much higher than expected trade-in for the F350. But yeah, painful.
I'm still buying toys like these gens out of my post-retirement contract work account. I haven't worked in 6-8 months and likely never will again. If I could stay off Amazon and Buds Gun Shop I might make the year before I close the account!
You know anything about Howa mini-action rifles??? LOL
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03-08-2016, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gearhead
Indeed it was!
But....I got a decent price for the Corvette, selling to a 23 yr. old, and a much higher than expected trade-in for the F350. But yeah, painful.
I'm still buying toys like these gens out of my post-retirement contract work account. I haven't worked in 6-8 months and likely never will again. If I could stay off Amazon and Buds Gun Shop I might make the year before I close the account!
You know anything about Howa mini-action rifles??? LOL
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Congrats on retirement. I just retired, again, for the third time (the charm). It feels good. Looking forward to exploring more of NV with the toy hauler, the RZR, the wife, the dog and friends. Hope you're enjoying it as much as I am.
An ex-gun shop owner friend of mine swears by Howas. I don't know much about them, but I can build you a heck of an AK.
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03-14-2016, 05:55 PM
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so I went out and used the champion for about 7 hours this last weekend. it was great! super quiet!!!!! it ran the ac(just testing it out) no problem. It basically runs the whole trailer on the lowest throttle possible if all you were doing was lights, tv, and whatever else is normally running. It ran hair dryer and kuerig coffee maker at same time, it ran the fireplace no problem. Very pleased with this. It ran about 6 hours on the one tank of fuel(1.6 gallons) with some medium to moderate use(ran the fireplace a while to give it a workout). Also, I changed the oil at 7 hours(book recommends 5) and put 10w30 mobil 1 synthetic in it. The unit runs a little quieter on the synthetic, about 2-3 db from some quick testing noted above. If this thing holds up it is the steal of the century.
when it was running full load I walked about 75 feet away and couldn't hear it at all at 11pm at night(no big appliances going). It starts on one easy pull every time. The smart throttle adapts to heavier loads seamlessly.
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