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Old 06-27-2016, 10:15 AM   #21
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I am guessing I am at least 3500 pin weight. I am going to also weigh the front jack weight (as long as the scales don't look busy).

We knew about the shower doors before picking up out unit. We have 2 rubber coated small spring clamps from Northern Tool that we put in the tracks to hold the doors in case the factory clamp breaks.
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Old 06-28-2016, 02:48 AM   #22
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This thread is interesting as i am suddenly hearing a soft click when trying to raise my front jacks on my 6pt hydraulic system. If i wait 30 seconds it will work again for 30 seconds then click and it doesn't work again. Is that the breaker tripping and auto resetting or perhaps i have weak batteries? It works fine on shore power.

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Old 06-28-2016, 02:54 AM   #23
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That click is probably the breaker tripping and resetting. If you are not on shore power or connected to a running TV, then the voltage is lower which makes the amps higher (ohms law). On shore power, there is usually only a trickle charger keeping the voltage up but with a good sized load, it doesn't do much help because the trickle charger is not giving much current (amps). Connected to the TV with it running is the better solution because you are getting alternator voltage and a little more current to help along with the battery power from the TV (a diesel being 2 more batteries).

I think the biggest problem with these (besides coming from the factory with 1 small battery) is the cable is too small that feeds the controller and too much voltage is lost which in turn makes the current raise higher than the breaker can handle.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:45 AM   #24
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This thread is interesting as i am suddenly hearing a soft click when trying to raise my front jacks on my 6pt hydraulic system. If i wait 30 seconds it will work again for 30 seconds then click and it doesn't work again. Is that the breaker tripping and auto resetting or perhaps i have weak batteries? It works fine on shore power.

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Yes, as stated above, this is your self resetting thermal breaker. Keystone has a fix for this on the Montana's and it is to replace it with an 80amp breaker or (2)40amp breakers in parallel.
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Old 06-28-2016, 10:21 AM   #25
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Our '14 Montana (3100RL) since new would flatten the battery in 24 to 36 hours even with the disconnect set to off. Our first trip East, we had to disconnect with no shore power for a few days in the hills of Vermont. When we came back to pick up the rig, battery would not lift it to hook up til I put on jumper cables. After that, the only way I could keep the battery up for more than a few days was to disconnect BOTH terminals. In Northern Virginia last fall, we lost all 12 volt power from time to time. Also, the slides would stop and start several times. One of the thermal breakers located behind the battery was going bad and since it has been replaced, no more problems but I still keep an eye on the battery voltage and unhook both terminals. Level Up has never been reset.
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Old 06-28-2016, 10:30 AM   #26
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I had that same issue with the hydraulic slides also. Only would go out on shore power... do you have a picture of a thermal breaker so i can look for it and replace

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Old 06-28-2016, 11:14 AM   #27
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Is the thermal breaker supplied by keystone (oem) or lippert? Thanks

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Old 06-28-2016, 11:20 AM   #28
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put in by Keystone with the wiring. on the rear wall behind the battery. has a red rubber boot over it. They are made by Bussman. Google Bussman 40 amp thermal resetting breaker and 80amp. you will see them. you may have 2. One that goes to your Hydraulic pump and one going elsewhere. the one going to the hydraulic pump and reservoir is the one that needs to be upgraded.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:31 PM   #29
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Be careful hitting the "level" button if you have the power cord hooked up to the truck, and the truck is under the 5th wheel.
Oh no, the front is going DOWN!!
Move the truck fast you nut job.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:47 PM   #30
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Just weighed today on the way to our first stop on the way to the beach.
Total combined 22,620
Trailer axles 10,040
Rear truck axle 7,560
Front truck axle 5,020
Whole truck with camper 12,560
Front camper axle 5,240
Rear camper axle 4,820
Pin weight 3,660
Camper weight 13,680
Front truck axle without camper 5,040
Rear truck axle without camper 3,900
Front Jacks 5,360

This was all four of us in the truck with two dogs, half tank of fuel, two bikes in bed of truck, two bikes on rear of camper, full propane, empty tanks except 1/3 fresh water. This is as heavy as we will ever be because there are usually only 2 of us and less food and chairs, etc.

I am surprised that the front Jacks are only 5,360 with as much as they strain. I had a fault again trying to auto level. It said jack was out of stroke. The RR did not go down all the way but it did in manual. We are pretty loaded on the front end but with 2 Jacks that are supposed to lift 10k pounds, they strain a lot.

We are under weight on every aspect but not far off from gvwr of truck (13k). Anyway, we are starting vacation so it's ALL good!
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